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re: Which coaches are getting fired at the end of the year?
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:58 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 8/26/16 at 2:58 pm to lsufball19
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he lost his first 4 games against eastern division opponents too
I realize this, but the Petrino - John L Smith situation was as close as you can come to the death penalty without actually being hammered by the ncaa.
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:00 pm to Ham Solo
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I realize this, but the Petrino - John L Smith situation was as close as you can come to the death penalty without actually being hammered by the ncaa.
Well Kiffy actually got UT some sanctions (before he bolted 2 weeks before signing day) leading to one of the worst if not the worst hires in SEC in Derek Dooley and then kept onto him for 3 years. This led to the worst period in over 100 years of UT football. You are digging here, at the very worst the situations are about equal
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:04 pm to VFL1800FPD
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You are digging here, at the very worst the situations are about equal
I disagree from the time Petrino wrecked the bike until the time we hired Bert was over a year and a half. Probably closer to 2 years. That is 2 years that recruits would not even talk to us. We had to send coaches that knew they wouldn't be here into recruits homes that knew those coaches wouldn't be there. 2 years of zero recruiting is a bitch.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:05 pm to VFL1800FPD
Not to mention a little rioting. There is no way in hell UT would ever hire Kiffen back. That would be the first time we see riots for hiring a coach.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:07 pm to Ham Solo
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I disagree from the time Petrino wrecked the bike until the time we hired Bert was over a year and a half. Probably closer to 2 years. That is 2 years that recruits would not even talk to us. We had to send coaches that knew they wouldn't be here into recruits homes that knew those coaches wouldn't be there. 2 years of zero recruiting is a bitch
WE HAD TO SEND DEREK DOOLEY INTO THEIR HOMES FOR 3 YEARS
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:08 pm to BHMKyle
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Do you really think he'd survive a 5-7 season and missing out on any post season? Surely not.
Yes. I don't think JJ wants to try to hire a coach when the university has gone through 3 others in 7 years. Not a good look, and one he would most likely try to avoid.
Fans would be pissed, but I don't think JJ would fire him barring a colossal meltdown.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:09 pm to VFL1800FPD
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WE HAD TO SEND DEREK DOOLEY INTO THEIR HOMES FOR 3 YEARS
And he seemed like a good hire at the start. My point is at least you had a coach who was trying. We had a 1.5 - 2 year stretch where we didn't even know who our coach was going to be.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:10 pm to therick711
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OK, same hypothet, except he finishes 3-9 with the victory over Bama.
If bama lost to a 3-9 Auburn team, it should be Saban getting his arse fired.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:12 pm to texag7
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Miles
LSU always in texfag7's head. Sad. But funny in a pathetic way.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:15 pm to Ham Solo
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And he seemed like a good hire at the start.
according to who?quote:
We had a 1.5 - 2 year stretch where we didn't even know who our coach was going to be.
no you didn't. Petrino's accident was in April of 2012. Bielema was hired in December of 2012.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:16 pm to Ham Solo
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I disagree from the time Petrino wrecked the bike until the time we hired Bert was over a year and a half.
or 8 months
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:18 pm to lsufball19
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according to who?
The Tennessee fans were hyping the shite out of him when he was hired.
You are correct on those dates. I had it mixed up in my head, but it was still a giant fricking mess having to send John L. into kids homes.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:18 pm to viceman
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I don't see AU beating LSU or Bama, and I have to believe he is fired after the Iron Bowl.
They ain't beating Georgia @Sanford either
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:20 pm to Ham Solo
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And he seemed like a good hire at the start. My point is at least you had a coach who was trying. We had a 1.5 - 2 year stretch where we didn't even know who our coach was going to be.
It's really not as bad as youre making it out to be
Recruiting class rankings per 247 composite:
2014( first full class of each coach)
UT 7
AR 29
2013
UT 24
AR 23
2012
UT 20
AR 28
2011
UT 14
AR 21
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:21 pm to lsufball19
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he lost his first 4 games against eastern division opponents too. i know people like to bag on Butch Jones in here, but i think you're overstepping a bit when comparing him to Bert
Yeah. Its tough to blame Bert's woes on just having to compete in the SEC West when he's also 2-4 against the SEC East... not to mention the fact he's lost to Rutgers, Toledo, and Texas Tech OOC.
You could argue that 3 of Bert's Eastern opponents were exceptionally strong: 2013 South Carolina (11-2), 2014 Georgia (10-3), and 2014 Missouri (11-3)... but then again, its not like Tennessee has skated by with an easy West slate.
Butch has faced some very tough competition from the SEC West: 2013 Alabama (11-2), 2013 Auburn (12-2), 2014 Alabama (12-2), 2014 Ole Miss (9-4), and 2015 Alabama (14-1).
I'd say playing in the East but also playing Alabama annually... plus catching Auburn's SEC Championship 2013 team and a very good '14 Ole Miss team pretty much cancels out the East vs. West argument.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:21 pm to Ham Solo
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The Tennessee fans were hyping the shite out of him when he was hired.
or trying to justify it since Dooley was the only person they could get. I can assure you UT fans were not excited about Dooley
quote:and it was a giant mess to have 3 coaches in 5 years, one of whom had the majority of his one signing class booted off the team within a year or two as well as getting UT hooked up with some probation from the NCAA
I had it mixed up in my head, but it was still a giant fricking mess having to send John L. into kids homes.
Look, I know you want to think Arkansas' situation was much worse because you experienced it, but the situation Butch stepped into was every bit as bad. I feel like his first year there were only a handful of upper classmen that played on the team
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:23 pm to BHMKyle
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Butch has faced some very tough competition from the SEC West: 2013 Alabama (11-2), 2013 Auburn (12-2), 2014 Alabama (12-2), 2014 Ole Miss (9-4), and 2015 Alabama (14-1).
and Butch has also played Oklahoma twice and Oregon OOC
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:23 pm to Ham Solo
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The Tennessee fans were hyping the shite out of him when he was hired.
Yeah but when he finished last in the division in his 2nd year, the majority of us were done with him
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:24 pm to VFL1800FPD
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It's really not as bad as youre making it out to be
Go back and watch tape. We had so many holes it was crazy. The position that we did have a player we had zero depth. It was bad.
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:25 pm to lsufball19
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I feel like his first year there were only a handful of upper classmen that played on the team
Hell we only have like 3 Senior starters this year
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