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re: Where would Tennessee be today if Lane Kiffin were still the HC?
Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:57 am to TheDarrell McSteal
Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:57 am to TheDarrell McSteal
We would be under sanctions. Hell we were under sanctions for like 3 years from his 1 season there. His recruiting class looked good on rivals website but go take a gander at how those guys turned out. He was a vastly superior coach to Dooley but that's not saying much. He may be more mature and better after his Bama tenure but he was a train wreck waiting to happen at UT. I just wish he would have left at a time we could hire someone better than Derek f%$@ing dooley
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 11:59 am to cas4t
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I recall there being some pretty bad years when Fulmer was on his way out.
One bad year and a few mediocre ones. But no one's confidence was low. If anything we were overconfident and hired a flashy but well known failure in Kiffin to replace a HoF coach who'd had some recruiting busts. But he brought his dad with him so we thought that would make it ok.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:00 pm to cyde
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But if the same guy blocks multiple kicks from the same team during the same game, can they still be called flukes?
i terrance cody is blocking two kicks, your kicker is awful
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:01 pm to Prof
For real. Many UT fans still exhibit some signs of occasional PDSD (our version of PTSD with Dooley) to this day. Especially in the first 2 years post Dooley. When UT lined up for a 19 yard field goal down 21-20 with :03 left and a chance to knock off a good SC team in 2013, the PDSD made me certain that we would miss. I'm pretty sure it did the same for most UT fans as well. Even after we made it, I waited to truly celebrate until I had triple checked to make sure there was no flag on the field.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:03 pm to rockytop627
Lincoln was injured, Kiffie knew he was injured. He had no business attempting long kicks. I don't think Kiffie deserves any credit for recruiting. He recruited a lot of thugs who could not be expected to contribute for 3 or 4 years, and they didn't.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:04 pm to rockytop627
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For real. Many UT fans still exhibit some signs of occasional PDSD (our version of PTSD with Dooley) to this day. Especially in the first 2 years post Dooley. When UT lined up for a 19 yard field goal down 21-20 with :03 left and a chance to knock off a good SC team in 2013, the PDSD made me certain that we would miss. I'm pretty sure it did the same for most UT fans as well.
I used to cross my fingers every time we'd kick anything. I can remember when Palardy finally got better under Jones, I'd celebrate every kick. I still celebrate successful kicks.
PDSD is real.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:06 pm to Scoreboard
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Lincoln was injured, Kiffie knew he was injured. He had no business attempting long kicks. I don't think Kiffie deserves any credit for recruiting. He recruited a lot of thugs who could not be expected to contribute for 3 or 4 years, and they didn't.
I'll never understand why Kiffin decided to run the clock out after Stocker's catch. There was roughly 45 seconds left when everyone was lined up which was more than enough time for Tennessee to get down the field another 15-20 yards. Instead, he decided to trot out a dogshit kicker to try for a 50 yarder when he had already been blocked once and had been way short on another.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:12 pm to Prof
Celebrating when we didn't fumble a punt was also a thing. And celebrating when your defense gets a stop on 3rd and 20.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:13 pm to cas4t
Would still be Alabama's hat.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:14 pm to cas4t
on probation
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:14 pm to TheDarrell McSteal
He did that because he thought the refs would frick UT over if we tried advancing it much farther. That was the year where nearly every week there was a conspiracy about the refs letting UF and Bama win. Arkansas in particular got hosed.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:14 pm to old man tiger
Why do so many people keep saying sanctions?
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:16 pm to cas4t
just a hunch
But in all fairness to kiffin, I am sure he has learned a lot under Saban.
But in all fairness to kiffin, I am sure he has learned a lot under Saban.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:17 pm to cas4t
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Why do you say that?
Because it is true. Kiffin played very fast and loose with the rules at UT. That may not be uncommon, but he also called a lot of attention to himself and basically flaunted it.
Outside of Tennessee, nobody liked him. He would have been an easy target for the NCAA to use as an example to others and nobody would have said one thing about it.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:19 pm to cas4t
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Why do so many people keep saying sanctions?
Tennessee was getting in hot water with the NCAA when Kiffin was here. I'm not sure if they would've hammered Tennessee had Kiffin stayed but they were definitely watching closely. Remember all the crap about Kiffin sending hostesses to a high school game in South Carolina? The NCAA was digging hard for some dirt after that but Kiffin had already left when UT went before the NCAA
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:20 pm to Scoreboard
Kiffin's 2009 class (bolded finished at Tennessee):
Bryce Brown - 5 star - tranferred after 1 year
Janzen Jackson - 5 star - kicked off the team, now on trial for murder
James Green - 4 star - never made it to campus
Jerod Askew - 4 star - kicked off team after 1 year
Darren Myles - 4 star - kciked off team after 1 year
Eric Gordon - 4 star - played three years, inelgible his senior year
Daviud Oku - 4 star - transferred to Arkansas State
Nu'Keese Richardson - 4 star - kicked of team, prob in jail somehwere
JerQuari Schofield - 4 star - failed out of school
Marsalis Teague - 4 star - finished at UT, never amounted to much
Marlon Walls - 4 star - suspended for a awhile for brawl but ultimately finished at UT
Daniel Hood - 3 star - 5 year player for UT, decent
Toney Williams - 3 star - never played, transfer to Ball State after 2 years
Nyshier Oliver - 3 star - arrested his freshman year, booted
Kevin Revis - 3 star - transferred to UT Chattanooga after 1 year
Arthur Jeffery - 3 star - injuries, quit football after 2 years
Zach Rogers - 3 star - stayed at UT, white receiver
Greg King - 3 star - stayed at UT 5 years, didn't play much
Rae Sykes - 3 star - failed out of school after 2 years
Nigel Mitchell-Thornton - 3 star - graduated from UT, didn't play much. smart kid, though, actually
Mike Edwards - 3 star - kicked off team freshman year
Robert Nelson - 3 star - never played, transferred to Alabama A&M
Bryce Brown - 5 star - tranferred after 1 year
Janzen Jackson - 5 star - kicked off the team, now on trial for murder
James Green - 4 star - never made it to campus
Jerod Askew - 4 star - kicked off team after 1 year
Darren Myles - 4 star - kciked off team after 1 year
Eric Gordon - 4 star - played three years, inelgible his senior year
Daviud Oku - 4 star - transferred to Arkansas State
Nu'Keese Richardson - 4 star - kicked of team, prob in jail somehwere
JerQuari Schofield - 4 star - failed out of school
Marsalis Teague - 4 star - finished at UT, never amounted to much
Marlon Walls - 4 star - suspended for a awhile for brawl but ultimately finished at UT
Daniel Hood - 3 star - 5 year player for UT, decent
Toney Williams - 3 star - never played, transfer to Ball State after 2 years
Nyshier Oliver - 3 star - arrested his freshman year, booted
Kevin Revis - 3 star - transferred to UT Chattanooga after 1 year
Arthur Jeffery - 3 star - injuries, quit football after 2 years
Zach Rogers - 3 star - stayed at UT, white receiver
Greg King - 3 star - stayed at UT 5 years, didn't play much
Rae Sykes - 3 star - failed out of school after 2 years
Nigel Mitchell-Thornton - 3 star - graduated from UT, didn't play much. smart kid, though, actually
Mike Edwards - 3 star - kicked off team freshman year
Robert Nelson - 3 star - never played, transferred to Alabama A&M
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:20 pm to cas4t
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Why do so many people keep saying sanctions?
because they actually got put on probation for stuff kiffin did
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:22 pm to JustGetItRight
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Because it is true. Kiffin played very fast and loose with the rules at UT. That may not be uncommon, but he also called a lot of attention to himself and basically flaunted it. Outside of Tennessee, nobody liked him. He would have been an easy target for the NCAA to use as an example to others and nobody would have said one thing about it.
This is correct imo. Everyone was wanting to bust his arse. Kiffin came in talking shite and ruffling feathers and made a lot of enemies in a very short time. Lane was a big believer in there being no such thing as bad publicity
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Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:22 pm to cas4t
He used some shady-arse tactics while he was here. He would bring hot college age females to HS players games, I believe they were called something like the "Volunteer pride" squad or something. There were several other things as well. We eventually self reported them and got a few lashes from the NCAA, and I think we were on probation as well, but we didn't get anything too serious.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 12:22 pm to lsufball19
I wouldn't expect a class to stay together when the HC leaves after 1 year.
But that certainly is telling as to the type of kids he recruited.
But that certainly is telling as to the type of kids he recruited.
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