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re: When was the true downfall of Tennessee football?
Posted on 2/22/13 at 8:37 am to Rbama13
Posted on 2/22/13 at 8:37 am to Rbama13
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I can't remember the last time I was actually nervous about BAMA playing Tennessee. These days I just automatically check a "W" for the 3rd Saturday in October. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
yea,thank goodness the rest of the SEC is held hostage to this garbage so this crown jewel can continue.
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 10:13 am to lsutothetop
Make it three , although I am spending most of my time stalking the POS known as Lane Kiffin.
Posted on 2/22/13 at 10:20 am to CmonDores05
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Such as the '01 SECCG against LSU
Posted on 2/22/13 at 10:32 am to CmonDores05
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When was the true downfall of Tennessee football?
2 consecutive abysmal hires after Fulmer. that can kill a program. Fulmer getting Mack Brown'd or Bobby Bowden'd in his last years didn't help either.
Posted on 2/22/13 at 10:39 am to scrooster
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Tennessee, under Fulmer, committed many atrocities over his decade and a half in power.
He said a lot of very hubristic things about other programs which he was dominating at the time - not a very classy move.
He cheated his arse off in South Carolina, where recruiting was concerned .... I cannot attest to what he did in other states but there is always the famous Wells Fargo - Tee Martin receipts I suppose. In SC he was just blatant. He gave players cars, gave their families jobs, etc. Hell, we pretty much know he did it in North Carolina as well. What was that offensive lineman's name out of NC who's family came forward and ratted-out Fulmer once he left Knoxville. Brandon something or other maybe? Seems like it started with a B. Same kid who visited SC but could not commit here because our Governor, Hodges, had him over to the mansion and he was declared ineligible after that.
Anyways, as the saying went and I witnessed myself, the parking lot outside of the training and dorm area for UT football players used to look like an Escalade Dealership. Fulmer is one of the biggest scumbags of all times right there along with Mike Hamilton.
And yes, Fulmer sacrificed a lot of good people through his decisions and during his little meetings with Culpepper, and others, over at Jim, Jimmy and Bill Haslam's secret hide-a-way near Chattanooga.
It's karma kickback they are experiencing throughout all of their athletic department, not payback administered by any one individual or program. And it appears to be a well-deserved karma kickback.
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 11:02 am to CmonDores05
December 8, 2001. It was the end of an era and the start of a new one.
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 11:03 am
Posted on 2/22/13 at 12:12 pm to theGarnetWay
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Yeah it seems like in every state they border + the state of TN they are getting boxed out by programs that are on the rise and / or have risen.
The factors you listed are similar to what contributed to A&M's decade of suck in the Big 12. Obviously it wasn't as big a downfall as UT's, but I just see a lot of similarities. The Kiffin hire was a headscratcher from the beginning though, while Fran wasn't exposed until later on.
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 2/22/13 at 12:28 pm to Crompdaddy8
Butchug U = Colorado Jr.
Posted on 2/22/13 at 12:35 pm to cramps
Tennessee does not have much instate talent. Bama and LSU rebuilt by building a fence around their states. Same with South Carolina. UT was good when they took the best out of La,Ga,Fl and SC.
The high school recruits today don't remember Tenner ever being good so the out of state recruiting is much tougher.
Fulmer recruited thugs that other schools refused to recruit. Kiffin did the same.Attrition hurt the Vol program.Dooley inherited a depleted roster.
UT has never been able to win with instate talent. See their rosters from 40-50 yrs ago.
The high school recruits today don't remember Tenner ever being good so the out of state recruiting is much tougher.
Fulmer recruited thugs that other schools refused to recruit. Kiffin did the same.Attrition hurt the Vol program.Dooley inherited a depleted roster.
UT has never been able to win with instate talent. See their rosters from 40-50 yrs ago.
Posted on 2/22/13 at 1:09 pm to VolsMissthe90s
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when you win an SEC title and a national title you can claim this or better yet when you win the East. Until then UT is always big brother in Tennessee
i dont see how this is relevant to the last 8 years of Vanderbilt or Tennessee football. Maybe you should have posted something like this:
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Congrats on the giant turnaround! VU now has 2 wins over the Vols in 30 years. After your big tipping point win in 2005, here's what happened: 2006 39-10 Loss 2007 25-24 Loss 2008 20-10 Loss 2009 31-16 Loss 2010 24-10 Loss 2011 27-21 Loss Guess what? Deja vu all over again after the big win in 2012!
See this is at least somewhat relevant but i will say to the UT fan that posted this, this thread isn't so much about the Win/loss record between UT and Vandy it's about the overall state of each program and how since November 2005 they could not be more opposite
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 2/22/13 at 1:12 pm to CmonDores05
Well isn't UT still 6-2 against Vandy over that span?
Posted on 2/22/13 at 1:14 pm to USMC Gators
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, this thread isn't so much about the Win/loss record between UT and Vandy it's about the overall state of each program and how since November 2005 they could not be more opposite
Posted on 2/22/13 at 1:15 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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I nominate this for post of the year. It's so in depth and full of intellect I have no idea wtf he is talking about
yeah he is letting his gumpness show a little to much
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 2/22/13 at 1:21 pm to CmonDores05
Their idiot fans and AD got rid of Fulmer and his stable program because they just knew they were gonna get an upgrade....then they got Kiffin.
Posted on 2/22/13 at 1:39 pm to Shiner Bock Aggie
No we are not. We have an abundance of pompus arse, no pussy getting, play with my Erector Set and masturbate arse hats. I wish we had a normal SEC fan base then Vandy boards would be much much better. 
Posted on 2/22/13 at 1:49 pm to DevellionDore
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No we are not. We have an abundance of pompus arse, no pussy getting, play with my Erector Set and masturbate arse hats. I wish we had a normal SEC fan base then Vandy boards would be much much better.
I'm not sure about that "abundance" part
Posted on 2/22/13 at 1:59 pm to Wishnitwas1998
I see what you did there 
We have more fans than people think. They have just been in hiding. You will see them emerge come Aug 31st
We have more fans than people think. They have just been in hiding. You will see them emerge come Aug 31st
Posted on 2/22/13 at 2:00 pm to DevellionDore
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We have more fans than people think. They have just been in hiding
Those are called bandwagon fans, and they don't count.
Posted on 2/22/13 at 2:02 pm to FinleyStreet
Not all of them. Some just lost hope and stopped supporting. Now they are coming back. Im sure we have a few though.
Posted on 2/22/13 at 2:06 pm to DevellionDore
You just defined a bandwagon fan after claiming they are not bandwagon fans.
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