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re: When Ole Miss Boosters Attack.......

Posted on 5/30/16 at 3:55 am to
Posted by tigerinridgeland
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 3:55 am to
Gotcha.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 5:11 am to
But I do think this violation will get thrown out or at least knocked down a level with him having a prior relationship with this recruit, driving him to other visits, and doing the same with other recruits.


I think the issue here is not so much that he doesn't need to drive the recruit because he's a booster.....but instead that he needs to not be a booster because of him driving recruits to visits that can't afford to go.
Posted by SouthOfHere
Pascagoula, Ms
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 5:27 am to
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problem is that we recruited and signed one of the many kids he helped. A two star player. Ole Miss doesn't dispute that this was a violation but it clearly isn't related to some sophisticated buying of players deal like the Means and Redmond issues were.




The frick I aint. It's completely sophisticated. You'd gave to be moron to think otherwise. They weirdo cocky they were even paying small amounts to 2 star players. lol at this pos. Trying to make himself look like he is A saint. He didn't help anyone but OM players or relatives. They just weren't as careful here as with the buttloads they paid higher recruits. What a sorry motherfricker. He should go to jail. He's just worried now what people will think of him. Not sophisticated? They're using the cover of Christian organization to pay football players. It's no coincidence that Freeze is such an outspoken Twitter preaching personality! He has to be to keep up the shenanigans. "If we ever get caught, we will just throw the Christian helping kids angle at them. They'll be to scaredvto touch us then!"
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:00 am to
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if anyone can read this article about what went down with this booster, and believe it, they have WAOM in their blood.


FIFY
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:18 am to
MaroonNation delete that post about Rich Johanningmeir.

There was an Ncaa investigator camping out at a female Ole Miss alum and we know who it is and so does the Ncaa. New people at the Ncaa now so let it go, trust me on this. Delete your post please.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:33 am to
That's open source info and has many articles about it so why would he delete?
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:39 am to
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That's open source info and has many articles about it so why would he delete?


He has since been discredited yes, but I wish you'd just trust me on this.
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2364 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:47 am to
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:52 am to
And all of that shite videos you guys keep posting might get erased lol.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:04 am to
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It won't be a good look if the NCAA looks like they're bullying poor college athletes that want to keep the lights on at his mom's house.



LOL!

How were they on the 18 yrs before that?

Part of the game is "look how poor we are"

OM has to do it to get them even to visit, much less sign.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 8:54 am to
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VivaZapata27
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The problem is that we recruited and signed one of the many kids he helped. A two star player. Ole Miss doesn't dispute that this was a violation but it clearly isn't related to some sophisticated buying of players deal like the Means and Redmond issues were.



If that is the case, the article does a very poor job of pointing that out.

It starts with the issue of improper meals and transportation and then points to the example of a group of FCA students meeting at his house for a meal in which only some of these students were Ole Miss prospects.

This would give an objective person pause to wonder if the NCAA is over reaching on this one.


But then it goes on to talk about cash being given to the Ole Miss prospects by Hughes to pay their phone bills and to buy them clothing. And that's just the things they can confirm or highly suspect were provided directly to the prospects by Hughes in the form of cash payments.


The article makes no mention of Hughes doing this at all or certainly not at similar cash amounts with any underprivileged students not being pursued by the Ole Miss athletic department.

Hughes' story is not any more credible than the crap he probably spews in those FCA meetings.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 8:56 am
Posted by KTownRebel
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2014
2854 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:02 am to
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He has since been discredited yes, but I wish you'd just trust me on this.


Guys. Delete the post, mullen knows more about this than anyone. He has spent countless hours with his own personal investigation while furiously masterbating, you can trust him on this one.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 9:02 am
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:02 am to
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The problem is that we recruited and signed one of the many kids he helped. A two star player


Lmfao. Yeah you guys are full of "two star players."

Perhaps he was rated "two stars" because recruiting services down grade kids who won't qualify.
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:03 am to
I think Mullen will have the last laugh, cheater.
Posted by KTownRebel
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:06 am to
You sound like a feminist. Are you a feminist?
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:14 am to
You're wrong on that. Herbert Moore was a two star recruit. here you have a guy who mentors and aids local kids in under privileged communities. Most of the kids clearly don't play sports. He thought he was doing something good for them by trying to get schools to recruit them. Ole Miss agrees that, as rules are written, the interactions were a violation. There are apparently time limits attached to what the NCAA views a pre existing relationship and Hughes apparently had not had a relationship with those kids long enough for it to count. We aren't disputing that the rules were broken, only that the intent should be clearly understood. It's obviously not a case, like States for instance, where a school saw an elite recruit they wanted and a booster did everything in his power to sway that elite guy to his school. This guy thought he was helping his kids by trying to get them noticed and recruited. He might have helped them too but it hurt Ole Miss. It's just not anything like it sounds on paper and it should be mitigated. It almost certainly will be. Our rivals writer wrote a much better and clearer article on it two months ago. This article doesn't do much to clear the air.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:16 am to
He qualified. He was just a two star, moron. We take them sometimes. Cody Core turned out ok.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
59504 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:24 am to
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but it clearly isn't related to some sophisticated buying of players

Actually it is. He's doing it under the guise of FCA organization and Harris probably knows it but decided to claim "aw shucks" on it. This is a clear motive of trying to skirt the rules.

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But then it goes on to talk about cash being given to the Ole Miss prospects by Hughes to pay their phone bills and to buy them clothing. And that's just the things they can confirm or highly suspect were provided directly to the prospects by Hughes in the form of cash payments.


The article makes no mention of Hughes doing this at all or certainly not at similar cash amounts with any underprivileged students not being pursued by the Ole Miss athletic department.

So how were these payments made? Did these payments come straight from Hughes' pockets or were they arranged for by the FCA organization? Is there a system in place for transparency that all the recruits he came in contact were treated equally? This guy was paying for phone bills, ole miss apparel, tickets to ole miss baseball games, travel, lodging, etc.

The damning part is that the NOA states Harris and Freeze knew about this and didn't do their due diligence on this matter.
Posted by PygmalionEffect
Member since Jul 2012
4834 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:26 am to
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We aren't disputing that the rules were broken, only that the intent should be clearly understood.



I think that is going to be Ole Miss' problem.

The intent is beginning to be understood.
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:37 am to
Awww, VivaZapata27 made me cry how Ole Miss cares about kids. I have tears in my eyes. I had no idea their coaching staff is all about helping poor kids, sniff sniff.

We have Ole Miss all wrong guys, they just care about poor kids, that's all. Nothing to see here, sniff.
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