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re: When did SEC dominance originate?

Posted on 12/2/11 at 11:49 pm to
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 11:49 pm to
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when did the SEC become the nation's premiere CFB conference,


With the advent of the Bowl Coalition in 1992. This isn't really even debatable.

From 1957 on, the SEC had some fantastic teams, and even a period of almost 20+ years where Paul Bryant's teams were perennial contenders, but there had been a long drought after the 1980 UGA championship. 1992 was where the game changed.

The Bowl Coalition was created to (in theory) guarantee the top two teams a chance to play at the end of the season, and eliminate some of the old bowl tie-ins that had always prevented this in the past.

Since that time, the SEC has won 9 of 19 national championships, and is almost guaranteed to make it 10 of 20. This will have been accomplished by FIVE different members of the conference.

January 1, 1993 was the day the SEC as a whole decided to make all of CFB its bitch.
Posted by Luke4LSU
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 11:55 pm to
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With the advent of the Bowl Coalition in 1992. This isn't really even debatable.

From 1957 on, the SEC had some fantastic teams, and even a period of almost 20+ years where Paul Bryant's teams were perennial contenders, but there had been a long drought after the 1980 UGA championship. 1992 was where the game changed.

The Bowl Coalition was created to (in theory) guarantee the top two teams a chance to play at the end of the season, and eliminate some of the old bowl tie-ins that had always prevented this in the past.

Since that time, the SEC has won 9 of 19 national championships, and is almost guaranteed to make it 10 of 20. This will have been accomplished by FIVE different members of the conference.

January 1, 1993 was the day the SEC as a whole decided to make all of CFB its bitch.


I will go ahead and validate none of that, accept it all as fact, and repeat it ad nauseum during discussions.

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
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Posted on 12/2/11 at 11:56 pm to
when we joined in 1992 duhh

dammit do I have to tell ya'll everything?
This post was edited on 12/2/11 at 11:58 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 12:01 am to
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i will go ahead and validate none of that, accept it all as fact, and repeat it ad nauseum during discussions.


I was thinking the same thing.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 1:20 am to
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January 1, 1993 was the day Alabama decided to make Miami its bitch, and the rest of the SEC said "frick yeah!"

FIFY
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 1:33 am to
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You have a point, but let's not talk about that.




I would say the SEC has had a few periods of dominance, but I'm assuming this thread is mostly referring to the most recent one.

It probably started in the early 2000s. LSU got Nick Saban and won a title in '03. Auburn had Tuberville and went undefeated in '04. Meyer came along not far after and started the streak in '06. UGA was pretty solid under Richt and UT was usually pretty good under Fulmer. Then it really strengthened when Les came to LSU and Saban eventually took the 'Bama job.

The last few years there have been some power shifts as UT/UF went downhill and Arky/USCe/MSU went uphill.
Posted by Gtiger9757
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 1:36 am to
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When did SEC dominance originate?


1992


'92 - Bama
'96 - Florida
'98 - Tenn
'03 - LSU
'06 - UF
'07 - LSU
'08 - UF
'09 - Bama
'10 - Auburn
'11 - LSU/Bama


and to be honest, '04 Auburn could have beat USC that year
This post was edited on 12/3/11 at 1:37 am
Posted by 3rdandlong83
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 1:44 am to
Bama is tied with Notre Dame for most Wire NCs so there has always been something there. Remember, the SEC won 3 in the 50s and 60s. Tennessee, Auburn and LSU in the 50s, Bama 3 times in the 60s, and 3 times in the 70s, SEC 3 times in the 90s. It's not really a new thing
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 2:06 am to
The BCS made it happen by preventing PAC-10 and Big X TEams from winning national titles by beating each other. Under the old system Ohio State would've played a PAC 10 team instead of Florida, and a PAC 10 team instead of LSU.
Posted by T Rey WI
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 2:51 am to
The SEC dominance began to take shape when Coach Bryant stepped down then passed away. Prior to 1982 UTk/UGA/UA were the only ones with a national face. In the 1980 AU decided they wanted to step their game up. Then a few years later FL did the same. At this point was when the Bowl Coalition came about as mentioned earlier and the SEC had enough teams in the big-boy game that when one fell into a down cycle two were primed to carry on. When LSU made the choice to join the club we had 6 teams all ready to fly and the chance of a down cycle for all of them was gone by the time the BCS was in place.

Now Arky and USCe have made their move to try and join the club. TX A&M looks like they want to be there too. So starting next year we will have 9 of our 14 teams that know what to do and the recruiting base to feed it. SEC dominance is not going away any time soon.

Not sure why the Aubies have not stepped up to take credit for something they did right to kick this off. It took 10 years for the move they made to really explode as it did in the 1992 Sugar Bowl.
This post was edited on 12/3/11 at 2:58 am
Posted by caribG8R
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 3:25 am to
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With the advent of the Bowl Coalition in 1992.
And even though most of us will not like it, (especially me!) Bammer led the way by whooping arse on scUM.
Posted by GeAuXbAdGeR
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 3:46 am to
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With the advent of the Bowl Coalition in 1992. This isn't really even debatable.


This
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 4:52 am to
in the 30's Bama and tennessee

40's UGA had sinkwich

50's NC = UT, AU,Ole Ms, LSU

60's and 70's = Bryant at Bama

80's= hershel/bo, balance with AU/UT/Bama/UGA/LSU

90's =Spurrier, Bama 92, UT 98,

00's= too numerous to count
Posted by A Wise One
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 5:19 am to
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00's= too numerous to count


I think that's what we are getting at here. The SEC has had such parody over the past 10-12 years, and such dominance outside it, that its really risen to another level.
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 7:46 am to
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When did SEC dominance originate?


At inception.

Seriously, I did a thread several years ago on this board showing that the SEC beat all other conferences for # of teams finishing a season ranked in the final AP poll for every decade since the start of the 1933 season.

You can argue that the Western Conference (i.e., the "Big Ten") was better team-for-team in the 40's & 50's because they had fewer teams (and the same goes for the Big 8 and SWC for several years during the 70's), but for every single decade the conference with the most AP ranked finishes was the SEC.

The SEC's first era of "glory years" was from around 1957 to 1974, but then integration/demographics/rogue-programs put a damper on SEC dominance for a while, and the 1980s in particular was an era dominated by indies (ND, FSU, Miami, Penn State, WVU, Pitt, Syracuse, etc.).

Nonetheless, the SEC was back on top in the 1990s, and the huge deal to create the Big XII that was supposed to surpass the SEC never went anywhere after Tom Osborne left Nebraska.

All that being said, yeah, the SEC has now entered a whole new era of super-dominance over the last 5 years or so.

Posted by Doc Fenton
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 7:49 am to
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The SEC has had such parody


That's rediculous. The Southern populous would never stand for it, because we are definately a dominate populous.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 8:07 am to
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The SEC has had such parody over the past 10-12 years

...and little comic relief. But we keep writing new material.
This post was edited on 12/3/11 at 8:41 am
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 8:15 am to
When the conf split
Posted by SquirrelyBama
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Posted on 12/3/11 at 8:19 am to
Bama started all this back with the 1926 Rose Bowl, and then carried the Southern Torch for a bit. Then other SEC programs stepped up the last 20-30 yrs or so. Now the SEC has 5-6 legit program capable of putting together Championship caliber teams. Arkansas & SC coming on lately so that number could go to 6-8 maybe.

The SEC has 5-6 legit programs capable of putting together a Championship Caliber Team any given year
SEC
Bama
LSU
Florida
Auburn
Tenn
Georgia (Should've won a BCS Title last decade)

Other Conferences count on only one or two programs to do this

Big12
Texas
Oklahoma
Big10
Ohio St.
Wisconsin recently
(Michigan usually)
Pac10+1
Oregon
USC (Usually)
ACC
FSU
Miami
(OK teams, but not consistent enough to win every week)
Big East
Hmmm


If we gave every conference a total # of Dice that represents the # of legit programs that could put together Championship Caliber Teams any given season
The SEC would be rolling 5 or 6 Dice any given season
Other Conferences are rolling only 1 or 2 Dice any given season
Who would have best chance of rolling Snake Eyes each roll?
The SEC of course


The odds are good for the SEC to put together a Championship Caliber Team that plays consistent Championship football every week
This post was edited on 12/3/11 at 8:21 am
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/3/11 at 8:36 am to
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Bama started all this back with the 1926 Rose Bowl


As the QB of the NC team for LSU in 1908, Doc Fenton begs to differ.

John Heisman might disagree as well, given the Yellowjackets' NC from 1917.

It's too bad that Tulane lost the Rose Bowl to SCAL after the 1931 season, or I'm sure they would claim a NC from that year as well.

TRIVIA: Tulane was the first team to beat LSU in an SEC game, winning 13-12 at Tiger Stadium on December 1, 1934. That far into the SEC's 2nd year, LSU & Alabama were the only 2 schools without a conference loss. Alabama did not lose a conference game until their SEC opener in 1935, losing to Miss. State 7-20 in Tuscaloosa.

LSU gained some steam, and would have claimed NCs in '35 & '36 if not for 2 close Sugar Bowl losses, and then Tennessee carried the torch, winning every single one of their regular season games (30) in the 3 seasons from 1938 to 1940.
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