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re: When Bama wasn't considered a top program of all time
Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:00 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:00 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Alabama
Notre Dame
USC
Oklahoma
Nebraska
This really is a difficult list put together. A lot of great programs, and so many different ways and criteria that can be used to rank them.
Notre Dame
USC
Oklahoma
Nebraska
This really is a difficult list put together. A lot of great programs, and so many different ways and criteria that can be used to rank them.
This post was edited on 1/9/16 at 10:01 pm
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:06 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I would rank the Top 5 like so:
1. Alabama
2. Notre Dame
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
5. Southern California
Nebraska and Michigan would be my #6 and #7.
1. Alabama
2. Notre Dame
3. Oklahoma
4. Ohio State
5. Southern California
Nebraska and Michigan would be my #6 and #7.
This post was edited on 1/9/16 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 1/9/16 at 10:07 pm to Ramblin Wreck
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I know this is an off season topic, but what do you think the top 5 programs of all time would look like today?
This is the offseason for everyone but Alabama and Clemson fans.
Posted on 1/9/16 at 11:20 pm to Ramblin Wreck
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Dan discussed Alabama and stated that basically they weren't considered a top 5 program because they had become irrelevant
Seems like Dan Patrick had a hard time understanding the difference between "all time" and "currently".
Posted on 1/9/16 at 11:25 pm to AlabamaAlum07
Posted on 1/10/16 at 12:56 am to Ramblin Wreck
You know the routine, when you winnin' they grinnin'
All up in your face, like they was wit' you from the beginnin'
But on the flipside, when you're washed up like a riptide
Fools clown 'bout how you slipped and let shite slide
All up in your face, like they was wit' you from the beginnin'
But on the flipside, when you're washed up like a riptide
Fools clown 'bout how you slipped and let shite slide
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:37 am to CrimsonCrusade
NFL hall of fame
Notre Dame (12)
Southern California (12)
Ohio State (9)
Michigan (8)
Pittsburgh (8)
Alabama (7)
Syracuse (7)
Illinois (6)
Miami - Flo
All time NFL draft
Rank All-time Draft picks First round
1 USC 475 77
2 Notre Dame 470 63
3 Ohio State 402 67
4 Oklahoma 355 41
5 Nebraska 342 33
6 Michigan 340 42
7 Tennessee 332 42
8 Penn State 329 36
9 Texas 328 42
10 Miami (Fla.) 309 59
11 Florida 301 43
12 Alabama 299 44
Most awards all time
Award Winners from Ohio State
YEAR PLAYER AWARD
2014 Tom Herman Frank Broyles Award
2008 Malcolm Jenkins Jim Thorpe Award
2008 James Laurinaitis Lott IMPACT Trophy
2007 James Laurinaitis Dick Butkus Award
2007 Jim Heacock Frank Broyles Award
2006 Troy Smith Davey O'Brien Award
2006 Troy Smith Heisman Memorial Trophy
2006 James Laurinaitis Bronko Nagurski Award
2006 Troy Smith Walter Camp Award
2006 Joel Penton Wuerffel Trophy
2005 A.J. Hawk Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
2004 Mike Nugent Lou Groza Award
2003 B.J. Sander Ray Guy Award
2003 Craig Krenzel Campbell Trophy
2001 LeCharles Bentley Rimington Trophy
1995 Bobby Hoying Campbell Trophy
1997 Andy Katzenmoyer Dick Butkus Award
1995 Eddie George Doak Walker Award
1995 Terry Glenn Fred Biletnikoff Award
1995 Eddie George Heisman Memorial Trophy
1975 Archie Griffin Heisman Memorial Trophy
1974 Archie Griffin Heisman Memorial Trophy
1955 Howard Cassady Heisman Memorial Trophy
1950 Vic Janowicz Heisman Memorial Trophy
1944 Les Horvath Heisman Memorial Trophy
1998 Antoine Winfield Jim Thorpe Award
1995 Eddie George Maxwell Award
1975 Archie Griffin Maxwell Award
1961 Bob Ferguson Maxwell Award
1955 Howard Cassady Maxwell Award
1996 Orlando Pace Outland Trophy
1973 John Hicks Outland Trophy
1970 Jim Stillwagon Outland Trophy
1956 Jim Parker Outland Trophy
1996 Orlando Pace Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
1995 Orlando Pace Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
1987 Chris Spielman Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
1973 John Hicks Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
1970 Jim Stillwagon Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
1995 Eddie George Walter Camp Award
1975 Archie Griffin Walter Camp Award
1974 Archie Griffin Walter Camp Award
Notre Dame (12)
Southern California (12)
Ohio State (9)
Michigan (8)
Pittsburgh (8)
Alabama (7)
Syracuse (7)
Illinois (6)
Miami - Flo
All time NFL draft
Rank All-time Draft picks First round
1 USC 475 77
2 Notre Dame 470 63
3 Ohio State 402 67
4 Oklahoma 355 41
5 Nebraska 342 33
6 Michigan 340 42
7 Tennessee 332 42
8 Penn State 329 36
9 Texas 328 42
10 Miami (Fla.) 309 59
11 Florida 301 43
12 Alabama 299 44
Most awards all time
Award Winners from Ohio State
YEAR PLAYER AWARD
2014 Tom Herman Frank Broyles Award
2008 Malcolm Jenkins Jim Thorpe Award
2008 James Laurinaitis Lott IMPACT Trophy
2007 James Laurinaitis Dick Butkus Award
2007 Jim Heacock Frank Broyles Award
2006 Troy Smith Davey O'Brien Award
2006 Troy Smith Heisman Memorial Trophy
2006 James Laurinaitis Bronko Nagurski Award
2006 Troy Smith Walter Camp Award
2006 Joel Penton Wuerffel Trophy
2005 A.J. Hawk Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
2004 Mike Nugent Lou Groza Award
2003 B.J. Sander Ray Guy Award
2003 Craig Krenzel Campbell Trophy
2001 LeCharles Bentley Rimington Trophy
1995 Bobby Hoying Campbell Trophy
1997 Andy Katzenmoyer Dick Butkus Award
1995 Eddie George Doak Walker Award
1995 Terry Glenn Fred Biletnikoff Award
1995 Eddie George Heisman Memorial Trophy
1975 Archie Griffin Heisman Memorial Trophy
1974 Archie Griffin Heisman Memorial Trophy
1955 Howard Cassady Heisman Memorial Trophy
1950 Vic Janowicz Heisman Memorial Trophy
1944 Les Horvath Heisman Memorial Trophy
1998 Antoine Winfield Jim Thorpe Award
1995 Eddie George Maxwell Award
1975 Archie Griffin Maxwell Award
1961 Bob Ferguson Maxwell Award
1955 Howard Cassady Maxwell Award
1996 Orlando Pace Outland Trophy
1973 John Hicks Outland Trophy
1970 Jim Stillwagon Outland Trophy
1956 Jim Parker Outland Trophy
1996 Orlando Pace Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
1995 Orlando Pace Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
1987 Chris Spielman Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
1973 John Hicks Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
1970 Jim Stillwagon Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award
1995 Eddie George Walter Camp Award
1975 Archie Griffin Walter Camp Award
1974 Archie Griffin Walter Camp Award
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:42 am to Dogfish
Like it or not, ND and USC are still the best all time.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:45 am to Ramblin Wreck
Dan Patrick is probably the same kind of dipshit who wouldn't list Tennessee in the top 10 all-time programs today.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:47 am to Dogfish
AP number 1
Most Recent Appearance
1 Ohio State 105 1942 2015
2 Oklahoma 101 1950 2011
3 Notre Dame 98 1938 2012
4 USC 91 1939 2012
5 Alabama 73 1961 2014
6 Florida State 72 1988 2014
7 Nebraska 70 1965 2000
8 Miami 68 1983 2002
9 Texas 45 1941 2008
10 Florida 41 1985 2009
11 Michigan 34 1947
Most Recent Appearance
1 Ohio State 105 1942 2015
2 Oklahoma 101 1950 2011
3 Notre Dame 98 1938 2012
4 USC 91 1939 2012
5 Alabama 73 1961 2014
6 Florida State 72 1988 2014
7 Nebraska 70 1965 2000
8 Miami 68 1983 2002
9 Texas 45 1941 2008
10 Florida 41 1985 2009
11 Michigan 34 1947
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:48 am to LSU Patrick
I think Bama has jumped them.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 10:32 am to Bench McElroy
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due to how bad they've been over the last ten years. A lot of football fans are retarded and have the memory of a goldfish.
But that's pretty important in college football, wouldn't you say? A 16 and 17 year old recruit will only have a conscious memory of a team from the previous 8-10 years.
We run in to this in Arkansas all the time. There are a bunch of old 40-60 year old fans who can't comprehend how Arkansas isn't in everyone's top 10 destination jobs. They say "I mean, from 1960-1980, we were a force to be reckoned with! Those kids and young coaches need to respect that and come play here..." Completely forgetting that the current batch of recruits weren't even alive BEFORE Houston Nutt was coach of Arkansas.
I mean, how insane is that? To us in our 30s, it feels like the 90s were just yesterday. But a 16 or 17 year old recruit wasn't alive before Tennessee won in 1998.
I love the history of sports. But it's as an outside observer. If I'm a coach or athlete, I probably don't care much about who won the 1977 Orange Bowl, or how many claimants there are to a national title from the 1960s. I want to know who is going to get me on TV, award shows, and to the draft TODAY.
This post was edited on 1/10/16 at 10:33 am
Posted on 1/10/16 at 1:14 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Michigan still has more wins than any other college team, right? Hard not to put them in that mix, maybe swap out tOSU?
Posted on 1/10/16 at 1:18 pm to Dogfish
Oh, look. More meaningless individual awards.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 1:24 pm to redeye
quote:
I don't know how you can't include Oklahoma on the list, because they've pretty much dominated in every decade since WWII, with the exception of the 60's and 90's somewhat.
Oklahoma is obnoxiously consistent.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 1:45 pm to LSU Patrick
quote:
Like it or not, ND and USC are still the best all time.
No they aren't.
Posted on 1/10/16 at 2:09 pm to LSU Patrick
quote:
LSU Patrick
Like it or not, ND and USC are still the best all time.
You might could make an argument for Notre Dame, though IMHO you'd be wrong. USC... I don't think so.
Kinda surprised I haven't seen this link yet: https://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/rankings/all_time_team_rankings.php. You might not like their methodology, but at least they DO HAVE a methodology that is quantifiable in nature and even to all teams.
1. Alabama
2. Notre Dame
3. USC
4. Oklahoma
5. Ohio State
6. Michigan
7. Texas
8. Nebraska
9. LSU
10. Tennessee
11. Florida
12. Georgia
13. Auburn
20. Texas A&M
23. Arkansas
28. Mississippi
34. Missouri
41. Vanderbilt
42. Miss St
47. Kentucky
61. South Carolina
Posted on 1/10/16 at 3:28 pm to GeorgeReymond
quote:
Bama went from 6 to 12 in 1 year
Only 3 were retroactive compared to Michigan's 6.
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