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re: What's your honest opinion of Miles?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:13 pm to thibodauxtigah
Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:13 pm to thibodauxtigah
He is not as good as Saban or as Bert or as Malzahn, possibly as good as Freeze or Merlins. Way better than Sumlin.
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:16 pm to ErnestTBassmaster
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So, pre-1983, Coach Bryant recruited better than any other coach before him? Better than the national draw at schools like Notre Dame? Okay. And somehow Louisiana players "were (and in your opinion, still are) too much trouble for too little reward"?
This is just garbage. I'm glad Coach Saban doesn't agree with you, or no Cam Robinson or Landon Collins or Cameron Sims or Denzell Duvall. What you think may have been true in the 1970s is far from true today.
Yes, Bryant did recruit nationally more than Notre Dame during his tenure. And most importantly, more talented recruits.
Are you a teenager? Do you not know anything of Bama's history? Do you think it started with Saban?
Bryant pulled players from all four corners of America, at will. He, by himself, had more pull than Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, USC, etc... combined as programs.
You are young; you don't understand his stature. You believe it is somehow kind of like the same as Saban's, which it wasn't.
If Bryant recruited you, you had just won the fricking lottery, no matter the state. To turn down Bryant was basically to turn down your future.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:20 pm to thibodauxtigah
Honestly -
Hard headed, resitant to change, counter suggestible, doesn't think well on his feet, needs help with the clock - do I need more than that?
Hard headed, resitant to change, counter suggestible, doesn't think well on his feet, needs help with the clock - do I need more than that?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:51 pm to Eitla
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Yes, Bryant did recruit nationally more than Notre Dame during his tenure. And most importantly, more talented recruits.
Are you a teenager? Do you not know anything of Bama's history? Do you think it started with Saban?
Bryant pulled players from all four corners of America, at will. He, by himself, had more pull than Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State, USC, etc... combined as programs.
You are young; you don't understand his stature. You believe it is somehow kind of like the same as Saban's, which it wasn't.
If Bryant recruited you, you had just won the fricking lottery, no matter the state. To turn down Bryant was basically to turn down your future.
No, I am not a teenager, and no, I am not young. I was alive for all but two years of Coach Bryant's tenure at the Capstone. But you couldn't be more wrong if you think that Coach Bryant recruited nationally on the scale that Nick Saban has. Sure, we had out of state players on Bryant's rosters, but nowhere near the proportion we do now. Neither Coach Bryant nor Coach Saban could win during the BCS era with the proportion of Alabama players on the roster that Bryant had during his heyday.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 6:59 pm to thibodauxtigah
I'm an Alabama fan, but Les Miles is a really good coach that averages 10+ wins a year and is loyal to his team, and his team is loyal to him. He's always well prepared when he faces Alabama (absent the BCS NCG rematch) and you will miss him when he's gone.
He's got excellent character, and he runs a great program. Unfortunately he hasn't been able to overcome NFL attrition on his roster.
The real problem is LSU fans who have no perspective on what your program was like before Saban/Miles.
He's got excellent character, and he runs a great program. Unfortunately he hasn't been able to overcome NFL attrition on his roster.
The real problem is LSU fans who have no perspective on what your program was like before Saban/Miles.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:02 pm to thibodauxtigah
Love the man.
He is a wonderful human being.
A great recruiter.
A tremendous motivator.
But (at best) an average coach.
His success is primarily due to his ability to recruit and motivate young men. His players love him and he loves them. However, he is not an Xs and Os guy who develops innovative schemes to exploit his opponents weaknesses. He simply lines up his guys and relies on their talent being better than the guy across from them.
And I honestly think he finally figured out last night that is not good enough.
He is a wonderful human being.
A great recruiter.
A tremendous motivator.
But (at best) an average coach.
His success is primarily due to his ability to recruit and motivate young men. His players love him and he loves them. However, he is not an Xs and Os guy who develops innovative schemes to exploit his opponents weaknesses. He simply lines up his guys and relies on their talent being better than the guy across from them.
And I honestly think he finally figured out last night that is not good enough.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:04 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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You all are having a true rebuilding year. You lost a lot of talent the last two years. I think I would give him two years before really looking at if he is the right coach. Dude has made LSU relevant in the title hunt for a lot of years. QB has been his Achilles heal but I truly think Harris can be good. Not sure Cam is the right OC though. Chavis still a top DC.
Don't know why it's hard for some people to understand that.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:12 pm to genro
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Stoops = Miles, both are >>> Brown
look where oklahoma was before stoops, stoops >> miles.
texas was also mired in mediocrity before brown and he made them elite. after mccoy left, brown did go downhill fast though.
miles inherited a loaded LSU team 1 year removed from a national title.
there are similarities between miles and brown, but mack brown's overall resume at texas is a lot more impressive than miles. Brown was better at UNC than miles was at okie state as well. Brown didn't handcuff his offense either, his 2005 team had one of the all time great offenses.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:38 pm to BlackCloud
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Ask Saban if he would prefer a team full of La. players or Al. players. Should be obvious enough. When he was at LSU he went from one end of the state to the other preaching about keeping all of the players in state. Now that he is in Bama he spends more money than any other coach in CFB traveling out of state to avoid the fat, lazy, drawling rednecks like yourself.
Log off boy, you are out of your league here.
The point is that, Alabama's historical success has a whole lot to do with it's native sons.
The Coonies/LSU really have no history of success, due to their sorry motherfricking level of not giving a frick about anything, and this extends to college football players.
The Coonie attitude, from Cajuns, has infected all socio-economic levels of life in CoonieLand.
It's like a disease. A disease of laziness and just being sorry human beings, basically. It infects everyone, not just those who live in the fetid swamp with you, but all around you.
To break it down, everyone doesn't have the same attitude as you Coonies.
Everyone doesn't think that just going out on the 2x4 rickety platform that Daddy done built for the fancy 1971 model flat bottom boat and dipping their hand in the mosquito infested water, to wipe their arse with after a shite, is enough.
Some people have more pride than that. Some people have a lot more pride than your type.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:44 pm to 632627
Eitla, there are 39 players on the Alabama 2014 85-man roster who are not from Alabama or the adjoining states of Georgia, Florida, Tennessee or Mississippi, approaching fifty percent of the roster.
According to "Paul 'Bear' Bryant: What Made Him a Winner," Delbert Reed (1995), Coach Bryant had fewer than eighty lettermen from outside these five states during his entire tenure at Alabama. He was an incredible coach, but ninety percent of his talent came from the Deep South.
So, not only are you incredibly wrong about Louisiana talent or their ability to field great teams with that talent, you are also dead wrong about Alabama's national recruiting before Nick Saban, unless you think that having ten percent of your active roster being from out of state makes you a national recruiter.
Facts, baby, facts.
According to "Paul 'Bear' Bryant: What Made Him a Winner," Delbert Reed (1995), Coach Bryant had fewer than eighty lettermen from outside these five states during his entire tenure at Alabama. He was an incredible coach, but ninety percent of his talent came from the Deep South.
So, not only are you incredibly wrong about Louisiana talent or their ability to field great teams with that talent, you are also dead wrong about Alabama's national recruiting before Nick Saban, unless you think that having ten percent of your active roster being from out of state makes you a national recruiter.
Facts, baby, facts.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:50 pm to ErnestTBassmaster
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Eitla, there are 39 players on the Alabama 2014 85-man roster who are not from Alabama or the adjoining states of Georgia, Florida, Tennessee or Mississippi, approaching fifty percent of the roster.
According to "Paul 'Bear' Bryant: What Made Him a Winner," Delbert Reed (1995), Coach Bryant had fewer than eighty lettermen from outside these five states during his entire tenure at Alabama. He was an incredible coach, but ninety percent of his talent came from the Deep South.
So, not only are you incredibly wrong about Louisiana talent or their ability to field great teams with that talent, you are also dead wrong about Alabama's national recruiting before Nick Saban, unless you think that having ten percent of your active roster being from out of state makes you a national recruiter.
Facts, baby, facts.
Are you intentionally being a frickstick? You state it yourself, the Deep South.
Alabama's recruting grounds have always been, and will be long after Saban is gone, Alabama, the Panhandle, west Georgia, most of Mississippi, and lower Tennessee, including Memphis.
It has always been thus and always will be. Louisiana means nothing to the Crimson Tide. Never has and never will.
You need to take a breather and take your head out of LSU arse for a moment.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:52 pm to Eitla
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:52 pm to ErnestTBassmaster
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Facts, baby, facts.
Is there anything that suggests that this guy gives a shite about facts?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:54 pm to Eitla
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Alabama's recruting grounds have always been, and will be long after Saban is gone, Alabama, the Panhandle, west Georgia, most of Mississippi, and lower Tennessee, including Memphis.
I never said they were not. They clearly are. But you said Bryant was a great national recruiter. He was a great coach, but not a national recruiter by any stretch, newb.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:55 pm to ErnestTBassmaster
Bryant recruited nationally but the vast majority of the players he had on his roster were from Alabama and the other southern states. He enacted a policy of recruiting locally while he was at Kentucky and never really violated it for the rest of his career. He did get some national kids but he liked to get kids from the area.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 7:55 pm to Eitla
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Are you intentionally being a frickstick? You state it yourself, the Deep South.
Remember that time you were talking about how Bear consistently pulled from the four corners of the US?
You are an insufferable douche.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:04 pm to SleauxPlay
I think if you find a better coach...you grab him and kiss him in the mouth...if you are a woman 
Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:06 pm to RollTide1987
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RollTide1987
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Bryant recruited nationally but the vast majority of the players he had on his roster were from Alabama and the other southern states. He enacted a policy of recruiting locally while he was at Kentucky and never really violated it for the rest of his career. He did get some national kids but he liked to get kids from the area.
Exactly.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 8:37 pm to the808bass
Les is an amusing and likable dumbass born with more than his share of good luck.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 9:00 pm to SleauxPlay
The Face of God, as George Blanda described him, shat on your state. Your loser players and loser mascots and loser cheerleaders ran to him, like he was actually God, before games each time he deemed it important enough to show up in Red Stick.
Each time, the coonie announcers would have to remind the imbeciles that the game was about to start and to please return to their own sidelines and then, so as to not insult him, wish Bryant the best of luck in the game.
It was pitiful.
Each time, the coonie announcers would have to remind the imbeciles that the game was about to start and to please return to their own sidelines and then, so as to not insult him, wish Bryant the best of luck in the game.
It was pitiful.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 9:04 pm
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