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re: What's the word on LSU qb situation? Jennings or Harris
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:58 pm to GridironLeatherhead
Posted on 6/27/14 at 1:58 pm to GridironLeatherhead
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The real question is, which one can kick the hardest?
Wise guy.
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:02 pm to Choctaw
it all fell apart after Saban's QBs were no longer on the roster? Perilloux was bad overrated and kind of an idiot(promised freshman heisman, said Jamarcus who? , but at least he was talented. It fell off bad after him. Most QB's Mack Brown wants aren't very good either so that doesn't help RP's case.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:03 pm to rmnldr
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Both will be solid
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:13 pm to ChewyDante
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Jefferson stunk it up when he was reintroduced to finish the season against Arkansas
Jefferson actually had a great game against Arkansas. He was AWFUL in the SECCG but not in that Arkansas game (18/29 208 yds 1 TD, 53 yards rushing and a TD)
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:15 pm to GridironLeatherhead
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You mean the Cam Cameron who lost his job to Calderon, someone who never was an OC before. You mean the Cam Cameron that lost every single game in on season at Miami. You mean the Cam Cameron...well you get the point.
yes the Cam Cameron who was the mentor to Drew Brees and 14 years of NFL coaching experience. Yeah, same guy
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Yet will be starting over Andy Dalton by week 5.
stay cuteThis post was edited on 6/27/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:24 pm to GeauxPack81
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Jennings will start the Wisconsin game because he has the experience, has proven he can win games for us, and is able to manage the game.
how has Jennings really done this? He played in one series against Arkansas. I mean, I have a hard time giving him the label of "knowing how to win" based on one series of one game because he did basically nothing to win the Citrus Bowl. He happened to have an unstoppable running back and a great defensive performance mask an absolutely dreadful passing performance. That's almost akin to giving Jordan jefferson credit for knowing how to win games because we won the SECCG in 2011.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:24 pm to Nguyening
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it all fell apart after Saban's QBs were no longer on the roster? Perilloux was bad overrated and kind of an idiot(promised freshman heisman, said Jamarcus who? ,
Perriloux was not overrated. He looked just like Jamarcus during his times in 2007. I watched all of Jamarcus's games and Perriloux's game against UT in the SECCG the last couple of days, and they look nearly identical. He also was loaded with receiving options. The big play WR in Byrd, the all around great WR with a drop problem in LaFell, and the 5 star talent in Toliver. He also had Keiland Williams who had WR hands, and Richard Dickson, who was arguably the best TE in LSU history.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:28 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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The LSU 2011 team with RP at quarterback is one of the biggest "what might have beens" in SEC history.
that would not have been impossible. If Perrilloux hadn't been booted, 2010 would have been his senior season
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:30 pm to Restomod
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Jennings will start vs Wisconsin on a pretty short leash.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:30 pm to Nguyening
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Perilloux was bad overrated
no he wasn't. Perrilloux was not overrated in the least. he was just extremely immature and couldn't stay out of trouble.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 2:32 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Richard Dickson, who was arguably the best TE in LSU history
David LaFluer, Robert Royal
Posted on 6/27/14 at 3:23 pm to lsufball19
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David LaFluer, Robert Royal
Since I wasn't watching LSU or football period for that matter back then, I looked them up before writing that. You had to be there to judge the blocking and intangibles, but he does beat them in every statistical career category.
LaFluer 71 rec 881 yards 5 TDs
Royal 59 rec 707 yards 7 TDs
Dickson 90 rec 952 yards 10 TDs
Dickson also did that with four of the top 10 statistical LSU WRs in LSU history.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:53 pm to lsufball19
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how has Jennings really done this?
Because he is 2-0 in the 2 games he has contributed in. By no means am I calling him a great QB, but I think Miles trusts him to not throw interceptions more than he trusts BH. Jennings has only thrown 1 INT, and it wasn't even a bad decision, it was just probably the worst throw I have ever seen in my life
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:53 pm to Datbayoubengal
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JJ had the best first year start for a non senior LSU QB since Tommy Hodson. He also did it with a horrible offensive line, and a run game that accumulated 1503 yards and 14 TDs total. In 12 games he had nearly 2200 passing yards, 170 rushing yards, and 18 total TDs with only 7 picks. He was the #2 QB in the Redzone in the nation and had a 61.5 cmp percentage.
2009 was easily his best season. I stated that it was evident at points even in that season that he wasn't going to be the answer for LSU. I'm sorry that you don't agree, but his performance in 2010 corroborated that. I get that LSU's fanbase was torn between who to start and you liked Jefferson over Lee. I didn't. That's not to say he never had games where he played well.
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You definitely don't know what you are talking about. At best in 2011, Lee managed the game.
So Lee effectively ran the offense is what you are saying? Go back and watch some of those games and watch Lee make nice throws, nice reads, ball fakes, protect the ball, etc. Our offense was efficient and unpredictable because the play action pass was killer with Lee and the more pro-style look. Jefferson made shitty reads and had poor passing mechanics. I don't discount his contribution to the team, but I much preferred how our offense looked in 2011 under Lee than it ever did under Jefferson.
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We could not run or pass the first half against UGA, you are placing that blame solely on Jefferson?
Jefferson looked like shite against UGA. Feel free to argue against that if you wish and make yourself look silly. I blame Les and Jefferson equally because Jefferson being in the game changed the offensive gameplan, and that is coaching's fault.
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Lee would have looked just like he did in 2008, 2009, and 2011 against Bama, very bad.
Oh please. Jefferson looked like absolute shite in that championship game. Lee deserved to be pulled out of the Bama game earlier in the year and we needed Jefferson in that game. Likewise, the same should have happened on 1/9, but for some reason Jefferson never got pulled. Miles had an affinity for Jefferson over Lee and I think it was to a detriment many times.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:55 pm to GeauxPack81
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Jennings has only thrown 1 INT
in 29 pass attempts. that sample size is far too small to make any sort of determination of his decision making tendencies. not to mention he's only completed 13 of those 29 attempts. i wouldn't really be gloating about him not throwing any picks when he also can't complete passes to his own team either
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:55 pm to Datbayoubengal
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LaFluer 71 rec 881 yards 5 TDs
Royal 59 rec 707 yards 7 TDs
Dickson 90 rec 952 yards 10 TDs
You are far too reliant on just reading stats outside of any context. Dickson was not better than LaFluer or Royal.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 4:58 pm to Datbayoubengal
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LaFluer 71 rec 881 yards 5 TDs
Royal 59 rec 707 yards 7 TDs
Dickson 90 rec 952 yards 10 TDs
Dickson also did that with four of the top 10 statistical LSU WRs in LSU history.
two of those three had NFL careers. One didn't. LaFleur was a consensus all-american and a 1st round draft pick. Yeah, I'll go out on a limb and say he was better than Dickson
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:21 pm to ChewyDante
My biggest peeve with Les Miles has been his management of QB's post 2007 when he actually had to make tough calls with the QB rotations.
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Whats his record post 2007 with very poor QB play? Who else did this? The facts were Louisiana did not produce any QB's during this period. No big time QB wanted to come to LSU and hand the ball off. Plus playing these SEC defenses versus the Big XII's was not as appealing either. Miles realized this and got the best Junior College player available in Mettenberger and then brought in Cam Cameron and has solved the issue.
Some of u guys need to pay attention to some other programs, before u continue to bash your own. Miles is good; deal with it.
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Whats his record post 2007 with very poor QB play? Who else did this? The facts were Louisiana did not produce any QB's during this period. No big time QB wanted to come to LSU and hand the ball off. Plus playing these SEC defenses versus the Big XII's was not as appealing either. Miles realized this and got the best Junior College player available in Mettenberger and then brought in Cam Cameron and has solved the issue.
Some of u guys need to pay attention to some other programs, before u continue to bash your own. Miles is good; deal with it.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:29 pm to LSUANDY25
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Whats his record post 2007 with very poor QB play? Who else did this?
I've highlighted LSU's success with poor quarterback play in other threads. That has nothing to do with what I commented on in this thread.
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The facts were Louisiana did not produce any QB's during this period.
I referenced this in THIS thread already.
I explicitly stated that I think his quarterback recruiting is fine.
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Some of u guys need to pay attention to some other programs, before u continue to bash your own. Miles is good; deal with it.
What the hell are you talking about? Miles isn't above criticism. I am a Miles supporter.
Posted on 6/27/14 at 5:36 pm to GridironLeatherhead
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