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re: Whats the RB situation in Bama?
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:52 pm to coachcrisp
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:52 pm to coachcrisp
After game one vs USC, BS's name is going to be all over sportscenter.
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:52 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
Ya bc Bo has done well so far lol
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:55 pm to Tigerdev
quote:LF and Guice should have over 300 yards on the ground combined against Wisky
Alabama churns out QB's like butter in your eyes but you are worried about their running backs? hehe.
I am gonna go out on a limb and say they will have a stable of monsters. I actually think our RB stable is better this year though so should be fun
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:59 pm to MontyFranklyn
I agree. Though knowing us it will be tied at halftime
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:26 pm to RB10
quote:I do blame Fournette some, which is why I made my post. And Harris may not be that good. Or maybe he's just as good as Fournette and so is any other RB out there. I'm quite positive he could have done everything Fournette did that day, and maybe more.
Sure he had a bad game, but if you blame Fournette for it, at all, you have to admit that Harris may not be very good then.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:34 pm to JuiceTerry
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I'm quite positive he could have done everything Fournette did that day, and maybe more
Based on him being below average against a bunch of scrubs in garbage time?
Solid assumption.
ETA: this is exactly what I'm talking about though. Fournette is to blame for "tip toeing", according to you, but I remember seeing a stat saying he was hit behind the LOS in something like 16 of 19 carries.
Harris can do what Fournette did against Bama, in your opinion, even though he's shown he doesn't produce against much, much lesser competition.
You guys go out of your way to put down on a guy who just had the 2nd best rushing season in SEC history.
This post was edited on 6/29/16 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:35 pm to RB10
Based on I could have averaged 1.8 that day. 
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:38 pm to RT1941
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LSU's coaches chose to run Fournette over and over even after LSU's starting oline continued to buckled to one of the best defenses in the country.
I personally choose not to diminish LF's talents and skills based on the Bama game. IMO 100% of the blame for his lack of production falls on the shoulders of your coaches, particularly Miles stubborn arse.
This. You could have lined up Adrian Peterson that night and the output would have been the same
Our O-Line was completely outmatched and outclassed.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:40 pm to JuiceTerry
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Based on I could have averaged 1.8 that day.
I'm assuming you mean -1.8.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:51 pm to RB10
I guess that's why RBs have been devalued so much in the NFL. Any good back can run behind a great line. And none can run behind a bad one. LF will probably still be a top 10 pick I guess, but he needs to not get mentally taken out when he's having a tough time of it. He's still learning, I'm sure.
Posted on 6/29/16 at 5:56 pm to JuiceTerry
Dude, shut the frick up.
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Posted on 6/29/16 at 6:01 pm to GeauxTigerNation
Bottom line: It's uncertain. We'll all find out together this year. I don't see another Heisman trophy in the books this year but we won't be trotting some po-dunk that nobody else wanted either. Depth will be the key, an injury might prove very costly.
Posted on 6/30/16 at 3:39 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:Barry Sanders was the best that's ever been when it comes to producing with just average offensive lines...he was amazing.
I guess that's why RBs have been devalued so much in the NFL. Any good back can run behind a great line. And none can run behind a bad one. LF will probably still be a top 10 pick I guess, but he needs to not get mentally taken out when he's having a tough time of it. He's still learning, I'm sure.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 4:10 am to Crimson Legend
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Username says it all. Good luck on your quest to Make America Stupid Again.
So you're going to vote for someone who would be considered an enemy of the state if she didn't have her political ties?
Assholes > Criminals
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:22 am to justustm2
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You must have missed Bama d-line throwing the LSU o-linemen at the Harris and Fournette. It was embarrassing. Fournette was let down big time by the coaching staff who made no adjustments in plays called.
Buddy, there is no play call that fixes that problem. And herein lies the answer to every question in this thread. Bama wins because their oline and dline dominate. Period! Who gives a shite who Bama's running back is? Last year, if Bama was forced to give most carries to LSU's third string back he would have been a Heisman candidate.
Saban understands this: you can be DBU, RBU, WRU, or QBU. If you're not line of scrimmage U it will avail you not at all. Sure, Saban wants the best recruits at all of those positions. But he'll sell his soul to control the line, and he'll let you sell your soul for the rest.
This is why Saban's backs tend to underperform in the NFL. It's not because they were overused; it's because they were overrated. And with another great oline to run behind, and with another great dline to keep returning the ball to the offense, next year's Bama backs will also be overrated. Though I have no doubt they'll be damn good in their own right.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:30 am to skrayper
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Alabama fans still hear from LSU fans that Henry is not in the same universe as LF. One could claim THAT is hypocritical considering Henry never had a game as bad as LF's versus Alabama.
I think I'm a balanced fan who gives credit where it is due (see my post above). I admire the hell out of Saban, and I often root for Bama.
With that said, Fournette is FAR better than Henry. Take the LSU or Bama shades off, and let's let the NFL decide the issue. If I'm wrong, Fournette won't be taken in the top 10 picks. Actually, I expect him to be the first non-QB taken.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:37 am to Penrod
quote:I agree with about 90% of your post. The area I'm not in line with is your interpretation of "overrated". All of Alabama's backs coming out of high school were elite talents (watch their old film). The fact that they generally had dominant olines certainly helped their stats and prestige, but regardless they were/are still capable on being very good NFL backs.
Buddy, there is no play call that fixes that problem. And herein lies the answer to every question in this thread. Bama wins because their oline and dline dominate. Period! Who gives a shite who Bama's running back is? Last year, if Bama was forced to give most carries to LSU's third string back he would have been a Heisman candidate.
Saban understands this: you can be DBU, RBU, WRU, or QBU. If you're not line of scrimmage U it will avail you not at all. Sure, Saban wants the best recruits at all of those positions. But he'll sell his soul to control the line, and he'll let you sell your soul for the rest.
This is why Saban's backs tend to underperform in the NFL. It's not because they were overused; it's because they were overrated. And with another great oline to run behind, and with another great dline to keep returning the ball to the offense, next year's Bama backs will also be overrated. Though I have no doubt they'll be damn good in their own right.
Alabama's been signing top-3 high school backs for 10 years now. The term overrated rests squarely on what the perception and expectation is.....and that's an opinion.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 8:38 am
Posted on 7/1/16 at 8:37 am to Penrod
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With that said, Fournette is FAR better than Henry.
Posted on 7/1/16 at 10:16 am to Penrod
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Last year, if Bama was forced to give most carries to LSU's third string back he would have been a Heisman candidate.
That is just plain wrong and is a gross overstatement, plus it is a huge flame towards Henry. Henry was a phenomenal RB, had one of the best seasons of all times for a RB. To say LSUS 3rd stringer could've done the same or similar to what Henry did is flat out wrong.
I understand Lsu fans think LF was the better Rb, that's fine and is a valid opinion but to try to diminish what Henry did in an attempt to prop up LF is what causes the flame wars.
LF was not "far" better than Henry. It's debateable on whether he was as good as Henry. Henry did have the better season, finished much stronger than LF, which shows his endurance was greater. Both are very good and both had very good seasaons. DH won the hardware. Maybe LF can this year, he will have stiff competition from Watson who's the odds on favorite but that's another debate.
Posted on 7/2/16 at 1:41 pm to GeauxTigerNation
Friday Five: Ranking five breakout players for the 2016 college football season
1. Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama: There wasn't very much excitement in Alabama's 38-0 win over Michigan State in the College Football Playoff semi-final last season, but there was one moment that stood out. Derrick Henry, coming off of his Heisman Trophy win, was the feature back in Alabama's offense, and he dominated all the carries.
But Henry was leaving for the NFL, and it seemed like Bama wanted to send a message. So, up 38-0 late in the fourth quarter, with the game well in hand, Bo Scarbrough made his way out with the Alabama offense. He picked up nine yards on his first carry, and then another nine yards on the very next play. He'd get another carry in which he'd lose a yard, but it wasn't so much his yardage total as it was that it felt as if Alabama was saying "Derrick Henry may be leaving, but don't worry, we have another behemoth who can carry the ball for next year."
That's what Bo Scarbrough will be in 2016: the new Derrick Henry. I'm not saying he's going to win the Heisman, but he could. He'll be in an offense that's working in a new quarterback, and will be built around its run game as it normally is.
Scarbrough will have the role of grinding down opposing defenses just like Henry did, and then in the second halves of games, he'll start breaking out the big runs to put the opponent away.
And by the end of the season we'll all know who he is.
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1. Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama: There wasn't very much excitement in Alabama's 38-0 win over Michigan State in the College Football Playoff semi-final last season, but there was one moment that stood out. Derrick Henry, coming off of his Heisman Trophy win, was the feature back in Alabama's offense, and he dominated all the carries.
But Henry was leaving for the NFL, and it seemed like Bama wanted to send a message. So, up 38-0 late in the fourth quarter, with the game well in hand, Bo Scarbrough made his way out with the Alabama offense. He picked up nine yards on his first carry, and then another nine yards on the very next play. He'd get another carry in which he'd lose a yard, but it wasn't so much his yardage total as it was that it felt as if Alabama was saying "Derrick Henry may be leaving, but don't worry, we have another behemoth who can carry the ball for next year."
That's what Bo Scarbrough will be in 2016: the new Derrick Henry. I'm not saying he's going to win the Heisman, but he could. He'll be in an offense that's working in a new quarterback, and will be built around its run game as it normally is.
Scarbrough will have the role of grinding down opposing defenses just like Henry did, and then in the second halves of games, he'll start breaking out the big runs to put the opponent away.
And by the end of the season we'll all know who he is.
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