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re: What would you grade Avery Johnson at this point in time?

Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:17 pm to
C+, trending up
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12617 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:17 pm to
No we didn't. We were picked to finish 13th in the SEC Avery's first year, and he had us on the bubble in mid February. Retin blossomed under Avery, but he didn't even start in Grant's final year.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:21 pm to
I think Avery is doing just fine, but we were in way worse shape when Bruce got here. Bruce had to sign juco and grad transfer players to even fill out the roster. Barbee left us literally nothing, except for KT Harrell.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:21 pm to
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When Avery came in our team had no talent and when Bruce came in Auburn had no talent,


Avery was able to recruit his first two years. But I agree, both programs are headed the right direction.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:21 pm to
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What would you grade Avery Johnson at this point in time?


InsecureU
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:27 pm to
You really did tho. No talent is still better than what Bruce inherited. Bruce had to come in and immediately rebuild the roster with grad transfers and JUCO guys or we wouldn't have been able to field a team without heavily relying on walk ons. Barbee left Bruce with KT Harrell for 1 year and a bunch of players that weren't worthy of D1 scholarships.

How many players does Bama still have left from Grant? Year 2 with Pearl Auburn literally had 2 guys left from Barbee and neither started and both were trash.
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
Member since Apr 2016
5541 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:28 pm to
B considering what hes had to work with. made mbasohan a stud in just one season.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12617 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:34 pm to
Taylor and Norris are the only two Grant players that play significant minutes this year. I'll say Auburn was in worse shape, but Bama's roster was in pretty damn bad shape too. If we'd had Grant last season, we probably would have had single digit wins.
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
12627 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:39 pm to
The roster wasn't good, but don't compare it to Auburn. Not only did you have halfway decent recruits, but they also had/have some size.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12617 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:43 pm to
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WilliamTaylor21


Aren't you a LSU fan? And you're talking shite about basketball
Posted by Bigtater
Texas
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 1:45 pm to
A
Posted by Triple Daves
ITP
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/29/17 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

we were in way worse shape when Bruce got here


Agree. Auburns program was in shambles and their roster was a total disaster.

Grant didn't leave a ton of great players but he left a program that wasn't totally gutted out like Barbee did.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 2:26 pm to
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Agree. Auburns program was in shambles and their roster was a total disaster.

Grant didn't leave a ton of great players but he left a program that wasn't totally gutted out like Barbee did.


Absolutely, Grant's problem was that he was consistently NIT level talent (and results) but certainly not a disaster.

I'd grade Avery Johnson very well so far since he's infused a ton of energy and interest into the program and his teams have probably punched a bit above their weight for both of his seasons.


The real key is that he seems to be doing what Grant never could: bring in the type talent that can turn 18-12 NIT teams into a Top25 one.

The grade is really incomplete though since it'll be the next two seasons that reveal what he's going to do with some legit talent.
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 3:15 pm to
He talks weird

4/10
Posted by ColoBama
The Kayng of College Fusball, CO
Member since Dec 2016
7433 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 4:00 pm to
I'd say A-/B+ (relatively speaking of course) ... our record so far this season is better than a lot of teams we have no business having better records over. To me, that's a win for Bama hoops.
This post was edited on 1/29/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted by toothfxr92
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2007
322 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 4:39 pm to
A for the Aug
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19048 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 4:46 pm to
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Anyway, I'm just curious


He has things going in the right direction. He knows his coaching shite. It is a matter of him getting better players and supposedly he is making that happen.

Right now the SEC is a dumpster fire as a basketball conference. Below the top 4-5 teams we are horrible.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 4:55 pm to
He is not a very good basketball coach imo. Perhaps a good recruiter and ambassador...reminds me a lot of Butch Jones.

Posted by LuckyTiger57
Member since Dec 2015
1241 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 5:31 pm to
I'd give him a solid B+.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 1/29/17 at 5:44 pm to
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Right now the SEC is a dumpster fire as a basketball conference.
Actually, that isn't true. You are just projecting LSU's current state onto others. We have 2 or 3 good teams and 8 or 9 decent teams, many with a lot of good young players.
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