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re: What would be the thoughts on moving Alabama and Auburn to the East?

Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:24 am to
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:24 am to
I love playing LSU.

Win or lose, most times it is a good game to watch.

That being said, it is not as old a rivalry as the East teams we had to give up with expansion.

Even LSU fans probably do not like the fact it is a decade between home games v GA or Tenn.

Again, implying this thread is about fear of LSU is pretty laughable. I would argue playing Tenn/Fl every year is harder than just playing LSU.

And be honest, deep in your heart of hearts you would feel better knowing you could avoid the annual loss to Alabama.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:35 am to
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I would argue playing Tenn/Fl every year is harder than just playing LSU.

Except that Auburn has winning records vs UT and UF, but a losing record vs LSU.

But we know that running away from LSU isn't the only reason Auburn fans want to move to the east, they want to get away from Arky (2-3 last 5) and State (1-3 last 4) as well as LSU, and add Vandy and KY.

Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:40 am to
Hell, I'm all for it....the only difference being, let the 2 teams with the best records within the entire conference play in the SECCG.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:41 am to
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Hell, I'm all for it....the only difference being, let the 2 teams with the best records within the entire conference play in the SECCG.


Serious question, is that allowed under NCAA rules?

I thought it had to be a winner from each division?

Or is that not the case or did it change when they modified things for the little 12?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:43 am to
I don't know, but it should be.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:45 am to
Yeah it would end the dreaded scenarios where a weaker division has one good game in the championship and then knocks the SEC out of the final four.

You would think a number 1 v number 2 SECCG would almost assure a spot in the final four every year.
Posted by ChoadieMcSmalls
Look behind you
Member since Jul 2012
1695 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:47 am to
It makes more sense to me to move Auburn to the east and leave Bama in the west.

Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:49 am to
Yeah but I do not think it would be fair to ask Alabama to give up either the TSIO or the Iron Bowl, and I do not see how you could preserve them unless maybe the iron bowl was scheduled as an OOC.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37602 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:51 am to
It would make obvious sense except the TSIO and Iron Bowl would go away
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30596 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:57 am to
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Yeah it would end the dreaded scenarios where a weaker division has one good game in the championship and then knocks the SEC out of the final four.

You would think a number 1 v number 2 SECCG would almost assure a spot in the final four every year.

Bingo!...plus the Ala/LSU 2012 natty would have never happened...would've been the SECCG. That way Alabama would have had another SEC championship to go along with their natty title.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10155 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 11:14 am to
Give us Georgia and you can have Florida. Gainesville is far as hell from Baton Rouge
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 11:16 am to
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Give us Georgia and you can have Florida. Gainesville is far as hell from Baton Rouge


Give up the DSOR?

Blasphemy.

This whole thread is speculative that the SEC adds teams anyway.

Simple solution to lack of crossover play is nine conference games, but I am sympathetic to FL, GA and SCAR. Of course most SEC schools are starting to schedule pretty good OOC games (well, at least one a season) and I would rather have another SEC game v whatever FCS team is bused in (lol particularly after THIS year)
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 11:34 am to
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I know I am not the only fan bothered that it seems like the East and West are almost different conferences, given how rarely we play.



fix that by making the conference smaller.
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Member since Dec 2011
4184 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:46 pm to
Lemme see

send us West

back closer to home and back to Texas recruiting territory

and avoid having to play Bama and Auburn while there

...

what generally comes to mind is

Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3155 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:40 pm to
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This whole thread is speculative that the SEC adds teams anyway.


Well, that's really the big bugaboo right now. The number of scenarios that one can come up with to resolve the scheduling concerns is severely limited by having an odd number of teams in each division.
Posted by AlabamaAlum07
Member since Jun 2014
2027 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:01 pm to
I'm sure LSU would LOVE it.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:18 pm to
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Another solution would be nine conference games.
Saban's been preaching this for years and EVERY other SEC program shoots that shite down EVERY time they vote. 9 conference games is the solution, but there's only one program out of 14 that wants it.
Posted by motionmagic
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Nov 2010
831 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:29 pm to
Move Aubarn to the middle east.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:31 pm to
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Saban's been preaching this for years and EVERY other SEC program shoots that shite down EVERY time they vote.


I think he is right, but even if you could convince other schools, I see no way Fl, SCAR or GA would ever go for that.

I would also imagine Vandy and Kentucky would not be thrilled with it either.

I think it is the right move. I find the argument it would be too tough very similar to the argument used against an SEC Championship Game. Of course my vote counts for absolutely zero.
Posted by GoldenReb
Member since Sep 2013
731 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 3:32 pm to
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Why? Not knocking LSU but Arkansas and Ole Miss have both had success v LSU. Texas A&M will eventually right the ship. Miss State was a missed FG from winning this year.


My thinking as well.
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