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re: What will be the first SEC East team to win the SEC championship

Posted on 6/14/15 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 1:33 pm to
#24 right on the goal line, it's a hard yank that would have been a 15 yarder with the old rule, and it likely played a role in Murray not getting in.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 1:46 pm to
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#24 right on the goal line, it's a hard yank that would have been a 15 yarder with the old rule, and it likely played a role in Murray not getting in.


First time I have heard a UGA Fan bitch about it being a facemask. Some bitched about it being targeting.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 2:07 pm to
Nope. Not the same play. You are confusing that play with the final pass play.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:29 pm to
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Something we have learned to expect from a Richt lead team at some point in the season.


I'm sorry.....what were you saying you expected from a Richt led team? To be soundly thrashed? is THAT what you've come to expect? If not...it should be.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:34 pm to
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No, just complaining about a penalty is a waste of time and sounds more like sour grapes.


Yet complaining about missed TD calls is just smart football, right?

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They can call a penalty on every play.


So what you are saying is missed calls do happen. But only Auburn can whine about it? Got it! You blew a 20 point lead. Own it. You should have won big and your team couldn't close it out.

You guys are pathetic running around crying "We can't recruit well because we aren't a state school! Waaaah! You all just sound so sad.
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:40 pm to
yea it def was

you had plenty of time to recover/prepare before bowls and still got whipped

if not uga with chubb id guess fla will return to the top in 2-3 yrs
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 4:42 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 5:42 pm to
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No, just complaining about a penalty is a waste of time and sounds more like sour grapes.


Yet complaining about missed TD calls is just smart football, right?

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They can call a penalty on every play.


So what you are saying is missed calls do happen. But only Auburn can whine about it? Got it! You blew a 20 point lead. Own it. You should have won big and your team couldn't close it out.

You guys are pathetic running around crying "We can't recruit well because we aren't a state school! Waaaah! You all just sound so sad.



No dumbass, missed penalties are part of football. Missed replay calls are not suppose to happen. UGA fans have tried to alibi their mediocrity for years, after a while it sounds like "Charlie Brown's Teacher" to the rest of us.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:20 pm to
You can't look at a play and only take the convenient part of what happened into account. It's intellectually dishonest, especially when the 2 calls are directly related to each other. Missed calls happen and so do missed reversed replays and neither should.

Also, I am not sure you understand what mediocre means.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 6:49 pm to
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You can't look at a play and only take the convenient part of what happened into account. It's intellectually dishonest, especially when the 2 calls are directly related to each other. Missed calls happen and so do missed reversed replays and neither should.

Also, I am not sure you understand what mediocre means.



Bitching about a penalty is every fans prerogative and bith right. But missed replays should not be part of the game, when we have the technology to prevent it. There is nothing intellectually dishonest about either of those statements and have no real relationship in todays game.

As far a being mediocre in the SEC. I and most SEC Fans define it as not winning or playing for a National Championship sometime in recent history. What is your definition ?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32937 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:18 pm to
Ref mistakes have always been part of the game, be it on the field or in the booth. Some calls are more egregious than others like the no call hold au lt's always get away with. We all know it took quite a while for a view to show up that proved Murray's knee hit down, but it came after they decided nothing proved he didn't score. They can't nor should they sit there forever to make the call. The only thing that was obvious on the initial reviews was the facemask, which kept murray out of the end zone, which happens to be what you are whining about. Chances are he gets in without the facemask grab that totally impeded his momentum.

Mediocre is being average on the field, wins or losses. Thats The commonly accepted definition for a sport that didn't use a playoff to determine a champion.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:22 pm to
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Mediocre is being average on the field, wins or losses. Thats The commonly accepted definition for a sport that didn't use a playoff to determine a champion.


Not in the SEC.

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They can't nor should they sit there forever to make the call. The only thing that was obvious on the initial reviews was the facemask, which kept murray out of the end zone


I have watched the replay, still can not see it.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32937 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:49 pm to
You don't have to win a lucky mnc to be above average.....even in the sec. Can't ignore awful and average seasons like you want to do.

Yea, it's not as obvious in that view as Robinson holding on your final td but Even in your far view link one can see his head get yanked. Its beyond obvious on the up close replays not provided.
This post was edited on 6/14/15 at 7:51 pm
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:55 pm to
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It's intellectually dishonest, especially....


I think you mean intellectually disadvantaged....it is Auburn.

Btw I thought Murray scored and the refs agreed, including the replay refs.

How can this guy bich about a missed call then mock someone for complaining about a missed call? I think my class for UGA rejects might actually be true.
Posted by gstiger2233
Gulf Shores
Member since Dec 2014
346 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:11 pm to
And guess what we won then won the championship, also won it in 2010 went in 2013 and went undefeated in 2004. So tell me the last time UGA won a title, sec champ, or was undefeated in the last 20 years
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:23 pm to
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No, but two years ago when we were spanking you, you seemed pretty overrated.



Nice try.
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:31 pm to
I think it's a fair point. Replay is in place to fix certain missed calls. The powers that be deemed that penalties should be left off that list of things replay can overturn. It's unfortunate when calls are missed at full speed. It happens. Refs are looking at certain things and sometimes miss others, no matter how blatant they are to the rest of us watching from much wider angles.

It is definitely worse to see a call missed after replay. I did not go back to see if there was a facemask missed. I do not remember seeing one any time I viewed it, but I wasn't looking at Murray's helmet in those cases. That point plays to why replay misses are worse than live-play missed calls. If the facemask was a reviewable call, the replay official should be looking for it. He WAS looking to see if Murray scored a touchdown. As such, a missed call on replay would mean that someone with the benefit of many angles of the play, even slow-motion angles, failed to see what actually happened. A missed facemask means that one, maybe two, officials missed something live in a bundle of bodies that was definitely not their first priority to see.

Note: I'm not getting into whether this one was or not, no matter my personal opinion. It's ancient history and was made null by later events in the game. I'm simply pointing out why a missed replay call is worse than a missed penalty call.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32937 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 1:34 am to
Your response may make some sense on a general level but It's not a good point in this specific instance:

1. Not all ref mistakes are equally bad. Depends on how obvious the infraction was obviously. A missed flag on an obvious penalty can indeed be worse than a missed replay that lacked irrefutable evidence.

2. Why was it lacked? Because instant replays are limited due to limited camera views. In no way should they expected to be perfect with such limitations, and To think otherwise is not realistic. If it's not irrefutable, it's supposed to be upheld per the powers that be, and that's exactly what happened. They followed the rule to a T. It's not like they saw irrefutable evidence, and chose to ignore it, which is a key distinction to acknowledge.

3. To whine about one mistake without accepting the other simply isn't one bit reasonable.The way these 2 calls in question are directly related is quite unique compared to your general point, and that essentially renders them "cancelled" out. Fact is, One mistake led to another. Instead of Uga td or au ball on the 1 foot line, which were both wrong, it should be have been Uga ball on the 1 foot line.
This post was edited on 6/15/15 at 1:42 am
Posted by HDAU
Member since Nov 2014
1569 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 8:51 am to
1) Auburn (after the realignment)
2) UGA (after Jeremy Pruitt takes over)
3) Nobody (because of the abolishment of divisions).

In any scenario, it will be a few years.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 10:33 am to
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after a while it sounds like "Charlie Brown's Teacher" to the rest of us.


Much like Auburn fans trying to convince everybody they are as good as Alabama? When you can win more than 3 in a 10 year period against us, come back and talk to us.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 6/15/15 at 10:38 am to
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But missed replays should not be part of the game, when we have the technology to prevent it.


Then you don't understand what replays are for or the criteria in which the decisions are made. It has to be irrefutable proof or the call on the field stands.

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As far a being mediocre in the SEC. I and most SEC Fans define it as not winning or playing for a National Championship sometime in recent history. What is your definition ?



My definition would be winning big one year, then losing just as big the next. An Auburn tradition! Perhaps you should read the definition instead of making it up as you go along?
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