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re: What should Greg Sankey's first act as commissioner be?

Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:18 am to
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:18 am to
Simple, yet elegant.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22655 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:19 am to
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Move Auburn to east and Missouri to west


Move Auburn to another conference.

But on a serious note: You'd probably want to move Alabama and Auburn to the east and Vandy and Missouri to the West.

Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:22 am to
let other cities make a bid on the SEC baseball tournament.

I would be open to re-organizing the divisions but only if it kept a competitive balance.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54651 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:23 am to
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What should Greg Sankey's first act as commissioner be?


So many options to choose from but putting Bert on a diet would be a bold first step.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:28 am to
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Yours wasn't that funny


Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:38 am to
What-truly-would be lost from losing the permanent opponent cross-divisional dealio?
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16155 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:39 am to
no more weddings at sec stadiums.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22030 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:42 am to
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4.) Announce the abolition of permanent homes for the SEC Championship Game in Football and SEC Baseball Tournament.



lol
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:46 am to
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1.) Move SEC Office to Atlanta

Why? B/c it's a bigger city? SEC offices in Bham have a $1 annual rent. That's great for their bottom line. Though you may not like it, having the office located in Bham has not negatively impacted this conference or any member.

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2.) Announce an immediate rethinking of scheduling

Agree here, but not for the whiny reason most LSU fans want it. in 2010 Bama played SIX opponents coming off bye weeks. That was the most - by far - in the conference. They'll play more opponents coming off bye weeks again this year than anyone else in the conference, as they do most years. It's not about Bama/UT and LSU/UF and AU/UGA. No one moans about Ole Miss/Vandy or MSU/Kentucky. Why do you complain about the others? Historically, UT is the 2nd best team in the conference. No one complained in the 90's when UT was brutal to play and UF loved playing LSU.

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3.) All violation-related allegations from any member institution must be cc'd to the NCAA as well as the NCAA, going away from the "Tell us at the League Office first, and theeeeen we'll tell Indy."

So you are in favor of the conference castrating itself? Weird.

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4.) Announce the abolition of permanent homes for the SEC Championship Game in Football and SEC Baseball Tournament.

I'm in favor of this. Maybe offer up 3-4 cities that can do it in alternating seasons.

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5.) Pay SEC Officials in all varsity, scholarship-supported sports in order that they may become full time employees.

Can't do this AND move to a city where your rent isn't $1 per year. Paying that many people enough to make them full time employees - with benefits, which usually means an employee cost of 130% of salary - isn't cheap. Have you ever evaluated a P&L of a business and had to make operational decisions? You can't have it all and it seems that's what you want.

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6.) Require SEC Officials in all varsity, scholarship-supported sports to face the same basic media obligations players & coaches are subject and accountable for.

Officials are accountable for their actions and can be removed from consideration for SEC competition. Putting them in front of the media makes no sense. Even the NFL, NBA, and MLB don't do this. Why should the SEC?

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7.) Require the SEC Office to publish rankings of officials in all scholarship-supported sports, as well as methodology for ranking.

not bad, but again, they are removing subpar officials all the time. why publish a ranking and methodology that will simply serve to humiliate publicly those who will be dismissed privately? and you'll never agree with the rankings any way as long as an official makes a call that goes against your team, people will blast the rankings. Just one more thing to use in attempt to make Refs/Conference a pinata. Why would they do that to themselves?
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:49 am to
Fire bug eyes.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:57 am to
Didn't the SEC just distribute 31 million to each team?
Your points of they can't afford it seem silly.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41895 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:06 am to
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People who think the location of the SEC office matters crack me up. 

Move it to Red Stick IMO. Give LSU fans 1 less thing to blame when they lose.




Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
15347 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:08 am to
Put Merlins in charge of cleaning all shitters.

Put Bert in charge of all conference meeting catering.

Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:08 am to
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What should Greg Sankey's first act as commissioner be?
Stop talking about cross-fit like a typical cross-fitter.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:09 am to
Campaign for Title IX reform to get baseball and men's soccer full scholarships.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41895 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:10 am to
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Agree here, but not for the whiny reason most LSU fans want it. in 2010 Bama played SIX opponents coming off bye weeks. That was the most - by far - in the conference.


Posted like the self-righteous bitch you are. Whine about LSU whining then finish with a whine.

Oh and way to lump all LSU fans since we know all Gumps like to kill, poison and drop nutz on other dudes.



Edit: I love playing UF, just not every damn year.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 10:11 am
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:10 am to
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bamasgot13
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1.) Move SEC Office to Atlanta
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Why? B/c it's a bigger city? SEC offices in Bham have a $1 annual rent. That's great for their bottom line. Though you may not like it, having the office located in Bham has not negatively impacted this conference or any member.


I don't like the number of Alabama graduates that populate the League Office. Simply put, moving it to a major metropolitan city that doesn't have an overt affiliation with any one member institution is preferable. It would also-in my view-attract a more diverse field of candidates based on the improved location.

As far as the cost, we just (exponentially) overshot our own revenue projections in Year 1 while pulling off the most successful cable channel launch in cable history. We paid out $31 million + to member institutions in the first year of that cable channel's launch. To say that we can't afford new league offices in Atlanta or in NYC for that matter is disingenuous.

Are we getting a deal if as you say (and I have no reason to doubt you) we get $1 rent on the offices in Birmingham (Who owns the facilities BTW?)? Of course. Does that mean the cost benefits of the current situation outweigh the benefits of moving? I'm not sure. But from a strictly financial perspective? To say we can't afford it is hilarious.

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Agree here, but not for the whiny reason most LSU fans want it. in 2010 Bama played SIX opponents coming off bye weeks. That was the most - by far - in the conference. They'll play more opponents coming off bye weeks again this year than anyone else in the conference, as they do most years. It's not about Bama/UT and LSU/UF and AU/UGA. No one moans about Ole Miss/Vandy or MSU/Kentucky. Why do you complain about the others? Historically, UT is the 2nd best team in the conference. No one complained in the 90's when UT was brutal to play and UF loved playing LSU.


I think everyone's got legitimate beefs with the scheduling in many sports. I wanted LSU to play Vandy and UF this year in Baseball. Who doesn't want that every year when possible? Play every team in the conference if you can!

Same in Hoops. What's up with this rotating home-and-homes with some teams only getting a single home? Who and what makes that decision? We need clarity and rethinking. I'm talking about more than just football. The Bama grade in charge of it in Birmingham obviously needs more help.


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3.) All violation-related allegations from any member institution must be cc'd to the NCAA as well as the NCAA, going away from the "Tell us at the League Office first, and theeeeen we'll tell Indy."

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So you are in favor of the conference castrating itself? Weird.


I'm in favor of all member institutions operating without a Mulligan. We're just allowing a cushion for more brazen behavior and I'd rather not see it personally. We can agree to disagree though.

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4.) Announce the abolition of permanent homes for the SEC Championship Game in Football and SEC Baseball Tournament.
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I'm in favor of this. Maybe offer up 3-4 cities that can do it in alternating seasons.


We're in lock-step here.

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5.) Pay SEC Officials in all varsity, scholarship-supported sports in order that they may become full time employees.
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Can't do this AND move to a city where your rent isn't $1 per year. Paying that many people enough to make them full time employees - with benefits, which usually means an employee cost of 130% of salary - isn't cheap. Have you ever evaluated a P&L of a business and had to make operational decisions? You can't have it all and it seems that's what you want.


I've seen a few P&L's. You seem to assume we run a skinflint organization. I'll say again: In the first year of our newest and biggest revenue generator, this organization offered in excess of $31 million to its member institutions. The money is there and it will continue to be there.

I have factual monetary figures on my side. You have an assumption based on a sweetheart real estate deal they get in Birmingham and estimates on manpower.

The money is there. If we rewind back to #4 and start auctioning off the rights to hold SEC Tournament/Championship Events, there's even more. Future/subsequent years of the SECN contract, as well as analysis of streaming/VOD revenue streams to perhaps rework the org and member institutions cuts is completely logical and could end up putting even more money in the coffers.

I have the numbers on my side. You've got circumstantial evidence and an assumption on yours.

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6.) Require SEC Officials in all varsity, scholarship-supported sports to face the same basic media obligations players & coaches are subject and accountable for.


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Officials are accountable for their actions and can be removed from consideration for SEC competition. Putting them in front of the media makes no sense. Even the NFL, NBA, and MLB don't do this. Why should the SEC?


RE: the bolded section of your response, can you give us the concrete methodology behind this obvious point you made which everyone's already aware of? Can you tell us the reasons or the justifications?

If you can't, why? What's wrong with making these thresholds public? If you have a standard or scoring or methodology behind the decision-making, what or where is the fault in publicizing it to ensure strict adherence?

Where's the problem in that? This really ties into the next point you're making. As far as "publicly humiliate", I think paying them as fulltime employees and holding them to a publicly known standard isn't humiliating. You either measure up or you don't. Did they pre-empt the LSU/Ole Miss game when the kids from Ole Miss were down 60+ points in 2011?

If we aren't fearful of those kids psyches, why do you fear for a Basketball or Football referee's?

The secrecy you advocate is for the private sector. These jobs are very public and very visible. The standards and rules by which they should be held accountable should be just as public and visible as the jobs they govern.

As far as the argument that no other pro sports league does it so why should we...Why do you care what MLB-who has a massive officiating problem on its hands that has been covered in the media ad nauseum-or anyone else does?

This is operating with a set of policies and procedures that is so open, easily accessible and simple to understand the ramifications of, it would remove a staggering amount of doubt and arguments from fans who claim bias. Yet you advocate to maintain the secrecy that foments that kind of thing?

Makes zero sense to me.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29451 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:13 am to
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Officials are accountable for their actions and can be removed from consideration for SEC competition. Putting them in front of the media makes no sense. Even the NFL, NBA, and MLB don't do this.


They used to do it but there was too much controversy because officials suck at their jobs. There's hardly any accountability for officiating at any level.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:18 am to
Sankey's been Slive's right-hand-man for 13 yrs.....Doubtful he makes many wholesale changes to anything in the conference.
Posted by PanhandleDawg
Navarre Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2011
5444 posts
Posted on 6/1/15 at 10:24 am to
Move the SEC headquarters to Destin and out of gumpville.
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