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What is Most Important for Defense?
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:16 pm
The perfect defense has all of these things.
How would you rank them as far as importance? Specifically, on the SEC level.
I'm particularly interested in what the Bama fans have to say, they have several consecutive years of experience in watching a first-class defense every week through several recruiting/draft cycles.
A. Overall Raw Talent / Recruiting / Depth
B. Top-Notch Position Coaches, coach a 3-star up to a 4, coach a 4-star up to a 5, etc.
C. Age/Experience ie # of Seniors vs Freshmen, downs played in real games, veteran leadership, etc.
D. Defensive Coordinator/Overall scheme wizardry/gametime reads and adjustments by coordinator, top notch game prep
ETA- I will assign points to the answers and maybe tally them up later to see what the Rant thinks as a whole.
1st choice 7 points
2nd choice 6 points
3rd choice 5 points
4th choice 4 points
Instead of 1,2,3,4 points, because they are all important aspects. Make sense?
How would you rank them as far as importance? Specifically, on the SEC level.
I'm particularly interested in what the Bama fans have to say, they have several consecutive years of experience in watching a first-class defense every week through several recruiting/draft cycles.
A. Overall Raw Talent / Recruiting / Depth
B. Top-Notch Position Coaches, coach a 3-star up to a 4, coach a 4-star up to a 5, etc.
C. Age/Experience ie # of Seniors vs Freshmen, downs played in real games, veteran leadership, etc.
D. Defensive Coordinator/Overall scheme wizardry/gametime reads and adjustments by coordinator, top notch game prep
ETA- I will assign points to the answers and maybe tally them up later to see what the Rant thinks as a whole.
1st choice 7 points
2nd choice 6 points
3rd choice 5 points
4th choice 4 points
Instead of 1,2,3,4 points, because they are all important aspects. Make sense?
This post was edited on 8/9/13 at 6:38 pm
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:18 pm to deeprig9
a
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:19 pm to deeprig9
D
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:19 pm to deeprig9
e. not letting the offense score points
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:19 pm to deeprig9
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What is Most Important for Defense?
Leadership
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:19 pm to deeprig9
Jack Linebacker
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:19 pm to WestCoastAg
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a
d
b
c
Yep.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:20 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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This post was edited on 8/9/13 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:20 pm to deeprig9
hard to argue against your listing
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B
C
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This post was edited on 8/9/13 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:24 pm to deeprig9
D
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C
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:30 pm to deeprig9
a depth, especially DL. Control the line of scrimmage
c leadership and experience
d putting the players in the right place and being able to make adjustments by the third possession.
b get the right players on the field
c leadership and experience
d putting the players in the right place and being able to make adjustments by the third possession.
b get the right players on the field
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:31 pm to deeprig9
Courtney Upshaw's DMVP speech.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:58 pm to deeprig9
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D. Defensive Coordinator/Overall scheme wizardry/gametime reads and adjustments by coordinator, top notch game prep
See Alabama 2010 and Tennessee 2012.
See second halves of A&M's losses.
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C. Age/Experience ie # of Seniors vs Freshmen, downs played in real games, veteran leadership, etc.
Because of a terrible change in factor D. last season, Tennessee's 2011 experience became irrelevant.
With the right scheme and adjustments, experience and leadership can overcome a team that's playing off raw talent.
Hmm, I question this factor when looking at Georgia's 2012 defense. Experience didn't help them stop the run; they took a significant step back; the defense wasn't that good.
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B. Top-Notch Position Coaches, coach a 3-star up to a 4, coach a 4-star up to a 5, etc.
Georgia fans are banking on their new D-line coach and depth to perhaps make a better product than last season.
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A. Overall Raw Talent / Recruiting / Depth
See 2010 Alabama and 2012 Georgia.
How about 2012 Alabama? Was 2011 Florida very talented?
Depth is huge, but overall raw talent and recruiting don't mean much in the big games.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 7:16 pm to deeprig9
A,D,B,C
Posted on 8/9/13 at 7:38 pm to makersmark1
DABC
experience matters more on offense. defense is more raw talent and playing as a unit
experience matters more on offense. defense is more raw talent and playing as a unit
Posted on 8/9/13 at 7:50 pm to ChillCock
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defense is more raw talent and playing as a unit
Really? 2010 and 2012 Alabama did not lack raw talent. 2012 Georgia epitomizes not playing as a unit.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 7:54 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
What is Most Important for Defense?
To not let the other guys get into the endzone.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 7:54 pm to CrimsonTideMD
quote:sounds like the most efficient defense.
e. not letting the offense score points
Posted on 8/9/13 at 7:57 pm to deeprig9
C- I was going to start with A, but then I realized I'd rather have a whole roster of senior 3*'s than a whole roster of true freshmen 5*'s. The true freshmen 5*'s will be the guys who all eventually go on to be great, but in a head to head matchup, as a coach, I'd rather have the roster of seniors.
B- If your players don't have the basic fundamentals down with the right balance of weight room, chalkboard, drills, scrimmage, one-on-one motivation and training, I don't care how good your overall scheme is, the players just aren't going to execute, individually.
A- Give me more 5 stars to work with. Better players from scratch, makes the above job alot easier, you can take the players further.
D- Overall scheme and game management is absolutely crucial if you are going to have a top ten or top 20 defense, especially in the SEC where you have offensive talent and scheming that is top shelf. However, I think the successful scheming by the coordinator rests on the overall success of the other above factors I ranked higher.
ETA- why are people voting down this topic? Seriously? Not enough gifs? Nobody said "In" on the first page? Actual football talk isn't welcomed around here?
Chicken should see who voted down, and ban them.
This would be a better website if that happened. There is no disputing that.
B- If your players don't have the basic fundamentals down with the right balance of weight room, chalkboard, drills, scrimmage, one-on-one motivation and training, I don't care how good your overall scheme is, the players just aren't going to execute, individually.
A- Give me more 5 stars to work with. Better players from scratch, makes the above job alot easier, you can take the players further.
D- Overall scheme and game management is absolutely crucial if you are going to have a top ten or top 20 defense, especially in the SEC where you have offensive talent and scheming that is top shelf. However, I think the successful scheming by the coordinator rests on the overall success of the other above factors I ranked higher.
ETA- why are people voting down this topic? Seriously? Not enough gifs? Nobody said "In" on the first page? Actual football talk isn't welcomed around here?
Chicken should see who voted down, and ban them.
This would be a better website if that happened. There is no disputing that.
This post was edited on 8/9/13 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 8/9/13 at 7:57 pm to deeprig9
Elephant in room
E. Genetics
E. Genetics
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