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re: What did LSU do different last night offensively from the Les miles days?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 5:18 pm to CajunBattles
Posted on 9/3/17 at 5:18 pm to CajunBattles
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Please think that was over half of the playbook.
Please.
The commentator literally said Canada runs 6 plays. Just window dresses them. Simple route tree.
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 5:20 pm to goldennugget
Not much. Canada knows he is extremely limited with what he can do with Etling.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 5:31 pm to goldennugget
If you knew anything about football then you would have realized that Canada took what the defense gave him. That's what a good coordinator does, they will change the flow of the game as they see fit.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 5:36 pm to Brazos
Or if you listened you would heard the guys who interviewed Canada say he doesn't run a very complex system, and doesn't have a thick playbook.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 5:49 pm to russellvillehog
Do you remember the interview with WVU's Dana Holgorsen several years ago where he said that he LITERALLY has only a few offensive plays on a small piece of paper?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:02 pm to russellvillehog
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You guys really didn't blow open any holes vs a much smaller team. Your rushing yards came because your backs are big bull dozers and ran through weak arm tackles. Bigger teams will stuff you. Byu was bad. They started cheating and biting early. It looked like the same pedestrian offense to me. You will not score on bama with that offense.
This post reeks of fear.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:21 pm to Brunedog
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We only used 10% of the playbook
Same as Miles. When he did that we ripped his arse for not using these non-conf games as tune ups for the SEC. Now when CEO and MC do it we think they are geniuses. I am not defending or apologizing for Miles either. I wanted him gone. The maddest I have ever been in an LSU game was two seasons ago when Harris could not complete a forward pass when we got to the Bama, Ark, Ole Miss stretch in the schedule. We had completely blown our opportunity to work on said passing game...
Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:25 pm to Retrograde
Lsu fans are defensive about the offense right now
The truth is we didn't do anything different last night. Pre snap was a bunch of fluff that people are pointing too. We simply ran the ball 76% of plays(57 runs to 18 passes). 76%!! And most of them simple hand offs between the tackles
Les offense would have dominated just the same
Now saying that, I don't blame Canada. We manhandled them so much why the heck would you change?
The truth is we didn't do anything different last night. Pre snap was a bunch of fluff that people are pointing too. We simply ran the ball 76% of plays(57 runs to 18 passes). 76%!! And most of them simple hand offs between the tackles
Les offense would have dominated just the same
Now saying that, I don't blame Canada. We manhandled them so much why the heck would you change?
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:39 pm to lsupride87
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The truth is we didn't do anything different last night
Does truth mean something different during football season?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 6:58 pm to LNCHBOX
We ran the ball 76% of the time
We were successful because we manhandled them off the ball. We didn't beat them with misdeorediton or phenomenal playcalling
There was nothing materially different in our success from last night or a les miles offense
However, that shouldn't make anyone defensive of Canada. We dominated. All I can ask for
We were successful because we manhandled them off the ball. We didn't beat them with misdeorediton or phenomenal playcalling
There was nothing materially different in our success from last night or a les miles offense
However, that shouldn't make anyone defensive of Canada. We dominated. All I can ask for
Posted on 9/3/17 at 7:05 pm to lsupride87
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There was nothing materially different in our success from last night or a les miles offense
No matter how many times you say it, it won't be true.
There is more to how an offense looks than the run pass ratio.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 7:07 pm to LNCHBOX
Explain what the difference was then for me
We ran the ball between the tackles up their fricking arse all night
We had our tacklers and guards squeezed tight on the line
It was 100% power football through their defense
We ran the ball between the tackles up their fricking arse all night
We had our tacklers and guards squeezed tight on the line
It was 100% power football through their defense
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 7:09 pm to lsupride87
There's no point in trying to explain it to you. You've got your mind made up. You'd think being on the same side as nugget would be enough to tell you you're probably not right 
Posted on 9/3/17 at 7:11 pm to thelawnwranglers
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Last year they had zero motion and still couldn't get a play in time
Watching Les as announcer I have seen the delay
Spot.
On.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 7:12 pm to LNCHBOX
You can't even explain it
The people who think it was "a completely different offense" can only relate to namecallimg and emojis
It was 100% power football. Which was beautiful execution against a weaker team
However, you and others get defense and namecall and emoji post because you are scared that is all Canada has.
The people who think it was "a completely different offense" can only relate to namecallimg and emojis
It was 100% power football. Which was beautiful execution against a weaker team
However, you and others get defense and namecall and emoji post because you are scared that is all Canada has.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 7:13 pm to goldennugget
Well, what he'll institute remains to be seen. They could win that game being conservative and running the ball.
Why do anything different?
Why do anything different?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 7:15 pm to JesusQuintana
quote:Agreed. But lnch and the tiger rant said that offense was completely different last night.
Well, what he'll institute remains to be seen. They could win that game being conservative and running the ball.
Why do anything different?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 7:16 pm to goldennugget
It's what they did in spring and fall camps that allowed Etling to go 12/15 or whatever he was. He hit every pass he threw and threw the ball away 3 times. I don't care how he does it, as long as Canada brings a comoetent passing game.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 7:17 pm to goldennugget
Well we haven't seen what some people refer to as a "six man box," unless we were down 20+ points since the early part of the millennium. Last night, Sitake and BYU decided to go with a slow death of being worn down at the point of attack rather than walk the safeties up against a guy that proved he would immediately go PA over the top vertically when he did.
They kept their safeties out of the box and played soft zone quarters coverage for almost the entire game. So if you have a six man box with Derrius Guice and some greenhorn receivers you run the damn ball. Which is what we did.
We threw it based on the looks we got and to move the sticks. We ran the ball and kept it very basic and dominated TOP and the game as a result. The style may have seemed similar, but the efficiency was radically different.
The biggest example of what I'm saying? Through 3 quarters versus BYU, LSU under Canada ran 4 more plays than Miles' LSU offense did through 4 quarters in Lambeau Field last year.
They kept their safeties out of the box and played soft zone quarters coverage for almost the entire game. So if you have a six man box with Derrius Guice and some greenhorn receivers you run the damn ball. Which is what we did.
We threw it based on the looks we got and to move the sticks. We ran the ball and kept it very basic and dominated TOP and the game as a result. The style may have seemed similar, but the efficiency was radically different.
The biggest example of what I'm saying? Through 3 quarters versus BYU, LSU under Canada ran 4 more plays than Miles' LSU offense did through 4 quarters in Lambeau Field last year.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 7:19 pm to lsupride87
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You can't even explain it
Yes, we ran the frick out of the ball last night, just like under Miles. However, there were clear differences and the offense as a whole, looked much more efficient and mistake-free than the last few years.
It's true that we only ran a few of the same plays, but we ran them out of different looks and at times, worked in a misdirection off of those looks (see e.g. the jet sweeps, a couple went for first downs). This was something we did not see from Miles the last couple years.
The execution itself was also something that looked much improved, IMO. Despite it being a brand new offense and a lot of these guys being young and inexperienced, they looked fluid out there and we did not have a ton of mistakes. No this may just be my opinion but the last couple years, the offense constantly looked like they were making things far more complicated than necessary.
The pass plays that were called, (that we saw, we don't really know what kind of leeway they gave Etling at the LOS), were much more efficient and once again, we executed them very well.
There were a couple of times where I thought we took too long to get a play in and get to the line, but I believe that's a result of the new offense and assume that will become more efficient as the season goes on. We were also able to push the pedal down and go with some no-huddle to change the tempo at times, which once again was effective. (I may be misremembering, but anytime I can think of that we did this with Cam Cameron at the helm, was painful to watch.)
Was the offense a complete 180 look from what we've been used to under Miles? No. Anyone who expected it to be was greatly misinformed.
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