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re: What are the hardest high school football positions to scout and why?

Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by TrueReb13
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:14 pm to
Easily OL.
Posted by MeatPants
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:52 pm to
Kicker

Cause it's kicking
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:56 pm to
Offensive Line followed by Defensive Line.

Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:49 am to
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Maybe,but you'll know very quickly if they can play.Not so much with O-lineman. Some can be a total shite show through a redshirt year and the next and then develop in to a very productive player.Tangibles play a much higher role for a db's future success as compared to an O-lineman

There are very few freshman DBs playing significant snaps in major college football for a reason. You'll know quickly if any elite athlete can play at any position. Ask some coaches about this.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 9:55 am to
Offensive line. WR seems tough seems a lot bust.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:05 am to
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DTs are Harder than you think

Sometimes big huge guys have just been pushing around high school linemen for four years.


I don't think any position is without risk. DT is simply the easiest in relative terms.

If you sign a five star DT, odds are he is going to be a big producer.

That doesn't make the Mizzou Miracle of Pinkle signing all those three star diamond in the rough DTs that are all conference less amazing.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 10:08 am to
QB's, just look at the track record. Highly rated highschool QB's tend to suck, especially guys who are rated as pro style. There hasn't been a top rated Pro Style recruit to pan out since like Ryan Mallett in '07 and Stafford in '06. In 2016 there really isn't a reason to recruit one, the dual threat guys just have it all plus more athleticism.



And it makes sense I guess. Most high schools are going to try to get their best player the ball as much as possible. As a QB, if you aren't one of the most athletic players on your highschool team, chances are that's going to be ostracized in college. There are obviously exceptions, but Peyton Mannings are few and far between.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 10:14 am
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 12:56 pm to
I think this is why coaches put so much stock into camps. A 6-4 320 lb offensive lineman could dominate at a smaller high school, but how does he do against bigger, more athletic d-linemen at a camp? Conversely, that O-linemen might struggle at times against smaller competition, but it may only be a matter of technique. Coaches get to see recruits up close and work with them a little.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 5:19 pm to
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QB's, just look at the track record. Highly rated highschool QB's tend to suck, especially guys who are rated as pro style. There hasn't been a top rated Pro Style recruit to pan out since like Ryan Mallett in '07 and Stafford in '06. In 2016 there really isn't a reason to recruit one, the dual threat guys just have it all plus more athleticism.



And it makes sense I guess. Most high schools are going to try to get their best player the ball as much as possible. As a QB, if you aren't one of the most athletic players on your highschool team, chances are that's going to be ostracized in college. There are obviously exceptions, but Peyton Mannings are few and far between.

From the standpoint of measuring the tangibles, it's one of the easier positions. The big problem comes when the intangibles enter the picture, and the QB position is far and away more impacted by them (what's between the ears, and not just smarts!) than any other on the field.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 5:27 pm to
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I say it would be the QB and kickers
Kickers should be the easiest. Kicking isn't reliant on competition's talent or anything other than their ability. If they can kick it in HS they can kick it in college.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 5:31 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 5:31 pm to
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Kickers should be the easiest.
The little bastards are usually pretty quirky....the nature of the beast.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/27/16 at 8:22 am to
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There are very few freshman DBs playing significant snaps in major college football for a reason


Quickly is a relative term.I'm talking by their Sophomore year and in comparison to O-lineman.
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