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re: What are the goals of the UGA program?
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:52 am to Gumpalicious
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:52 am to Gumpalicious
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Getting rid of Solich was the right choice for Nebraska, even if hiring Callahan was not. The correctness of the decision to fire a staff cannot be confused with the correctness of the hiring of its replacement.
Amen. I've made this same argument many times regarding Fulmer.
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:55 am to Gumpalicious
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What are the goals of the UGA program?
UGA being UGA.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:56 am to Gumpalicious
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You absolutely can fire Richt at 10-4. I don't understand that reasoning.
Look, the AD has to set the ultimate goal of the program. For the sake of argument, let's say that goal is to win the BCS. The next step is to ask the question: is the staff currently in place going to achieve that goal? If the answer is yes, then keep the staff. If the answer is no, then replace the staff.
Such action may not be popular, but it would be correct. If the guy in charge is not going to achieve the goal, then there is no point in retaining him. Dubose should have been fired even after winning the SEC in '99, and Shula should never have made it four seasons.
Getting rid of Solich was the right choice for Nebraska, even if hiring Callahan was not. The correctness of the decision to fire a staff cannot be confused with the correctness of the hiring of its replacement.
and who would UGA hire?
You have to look at that or you could end up in a roadside ditch like Tennessee.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:57 am to Gumpalicious
yea that's a good idea for a new AD, fire the dean of SEC HC's (consecutive years at least) who is tremendously popular within the institution and the fan base as well as the media for improving a 6-7 team to 10-4 and an SEC East title after bringing in a top 5 recruiting class and with another on the way.
pure fricking brilliance. look, i hate richt, but if you think Georgia's hands aren't tied then there is no reason for this argument. UGA cannot fire him as much as it should. if he were to blow it next year with 9-3 i could see an argument for it but he's already done too much and is too dug in for some half arse plan to fire a coach who just won 10 games.
pure fricking brilliance. look, i hate richt, but if you think Georgia's hands aren't tied then there is no reason for this argument. UGA cannot fire him as much as it should. if he were to blow it next year with 9-3 i could see an argument for it but he's already done too much and is too dug in for some half arse plan to fire a coach who just won 10 games.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:57 am to Moustache
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This is what I think of when I think of you now:
Whatever. Think what you want. I make every attempt to use proper grammar and to spell correctly, but things do slip by.
And this honestly wasn't a flame. I could ask this same question about any program in the SEC. It wouldn't make sense to ask this question about Alabama, because it has won the BCS. The same thing applies to LSU and to Auburn.
I could ask this same question regarding Arkansas, MSU, and South Carolina (excluding Tennessee and Florida due to staff tenure). Regardless of the target school, *fans* like yourself would question the questioner instead of answering.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 9:59 am to Damn Good Dawg
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thank you sweet baby jesus, i was hoping more trailer trash and cajuns would come at jawja
our goal is to wear cool jerseys, be christian, love richt, lose to boise and then be smarter than y'all and be your bosses after so you and your posterity may also become embittered toward Georgia. you guys think i am gonna tip your children when the bring the pizza now? HORSE shite!
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:02 am to Damn Good Dawg
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yea that's a good idea for a new AD, fire the dean of SEC HC's (consecutive years at least) who is tremendously popular within the institution and the fan base as well as the media for improving a 6-7 team to 10-4 and an SEC East title after bringing in a top 5 recruiting class and with another on the way.
The problem for y'all was not dumping him after the 6-7 year.
When that frick-twat Tommy Tuberville gave Auburn a shot at the eject switch on his seat, we grabbed that fricker and PULLED.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:05 am to Damn Good Dawg
Wow, I was just thinking how well UGA would fit in if they were to join the Ivy League.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:05 am to beatbammer
i wanted to so bad, everyone here saw it. but the McGarity was even newer then and he had two choices
1) fire richt, risk a bad hire, fired in a few years. always remembered as the impatient prick who fired st richt. even if it works out he will still have burned many bridges within UGA and outside it. richt is dug in deeeeeeep
2) stick it out, if he sucks fire him and you are the patient AD who gave a fan favorite another chance. succeed and you're brilliant
he ended up getting more of 2 but it wasn't as nice as it seemed it'd be
we totally should
1) fire richt, risk a bad hire, fired in a few years. always remembered as the impatient prick who fired st richt. even if it works out he will still have burned many bridges within UGA and outside it. richt is dug in deeeeeeep
2) stick it out, if he sucks fire him and you are the patient AD who gave a fan favorite another chance. succeed and you're brilliant
he ended up getting more of 2 but it wasn't as nice as it seemed it'd be
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the truth
we totally should
This post was edited on 1/17/12 at 10:07 am
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:06 am to Gumpalicious
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Whatever. Think what you want. I make every attempt to use proper grammar and to spell correctly, but things do slip by.
And this honestly wasn't a flame. I could ask this same question about any program in the SEC. It wouldn't make sense to ask this question about Alabama, because it has won the BCS. The same thing applies to LSU and to Auburn.
I could ask this same question regarding Arkansas, MSU, and South Carolina (excluding Tennessee and Florida due to staff tenure). Regardless of the target school, *fans* like yourself would question the questioner instead of answering.
Turnover is really bad for stability. Schools goals are to make money and have a solid program. Not everybody has the morally bankrupt win at all costs mentality the state of Alabama has.
different goals for different levels within the organization.
UGA has profited greatly in the AD. I think 2nd to UTexas. So their goal is for stability and not to end up with a coaching nightmare and turnover like UTenn.
The coaches and staff of UGA's goal should be a championship and to win every game. Those goals adjust as the season goes on. (i.e. you don't give up after you lose 1 game)
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:08 am to Damn Good Dawg
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we totally should
Man, I don't know. Richt has a pretty monster 2013 class as GA has great talent next year.
Fire him and you risk letting Tennessee back in the fold. Richt can get you there. He was a retard pass by Shockley away from getting there in 02.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:09 am to Moustache
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Not everybody has the morally bankrupt win at all costs mentality the state of Alabama has.
The 'tards on the Rant disagree vehemently with this.
All of them.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:12 am to Moustache
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Turnover is really bad for stability. Schools goals are to make money and have a solid program. Not everybody has the morally bankrupt win at all costs mentality the state of Alabama has.
different goals for different levels within the organization.
UGA has profited greatly in the AD. I think 2nd to UTexas. So their goal is for stability and not to end up with a coaching nightmare and turnover like UTenn.
The coaches and staff of UGA's goal should be a championship and to win every game. Those goals adjust as the season goes on. (i.e. you don't give up after you lose 1 game)
So it's official - you cannot respond without flaming. I should expect no better from this board.
The rest of your response has substance and is reasoned. I can understand the stability argument, and the issue of profit has merit. Why could you not have responded this way in the beginning?
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:12 am to Moustache
my response was to adding UGA to the ivy league
i wanted richt fired a while back, it's too late now. now you just work for 2012 and this class and the next look huge so yea, it'd behoove us if we just stayed with him. shittier coaches have won more than he has
i wanted richt fired a while back, it's too late now. now you just work for 2012 and this class and the next look huge so yea, it'd behoove us if we just stayed with him. shittier coaches have won more than he has
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:12 am to bamascott2
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The 'tards on the Rant disagree vehemently with this.
All of them.
Every fan base has people that live vicariously through their college football team and has nothing going on in their life EXCEPT CFB.
LSU has more than it's fair share, but Bama/Auburn seem to be ridiculous with it. Bama more so than Auburn.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:13 am to Gumpalicious
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Why could you not have responded this way in the beginning?
i didn't think you were seriously asking.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:16 am to Damn Good Dawg
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my response was to adding UGA to the ivy league
Oh, shite.
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i wanted richt fired a while back, it's too late now
Truthfully after '10 he should've been gone, but then again the guy was solid for UGA and maybe deserved a shot to turn it around.
He did rack up in recruiting last year and seems to be doing okay this year despite low numbers of schollies.
i think '13 can end up being fricking ridiculous for UGA with Tray Matthews, Tramel Terry, Brice Ramsey, McCrary, Derrick Henry, Foster or Nkemediche.
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:26 am to Moustache
yea, like the dream team (excuse the names, but hey that is what we do) was really well placed and maybe our most flashy class under richt
this year, named the ring team, started off awful because no one had faith in richt but they are really doing pretty decent right now with a lot of flashy players
next year could be the jackpot just like you said. shite, our QB depth is already decided up until 2017. so really it is best for UGA if richt can succeed, but he HAS to do something this year. we just have too much coming back to not. really if we could demote bobo to QB coach, fire tony ball and bryan mcclendon and bring a new OC and ST coach i'd be thrilled, i can keep richt. but richt has to meet fans in the middle because bobo is awful
this year, named the ring team, started off awful because no one had faith in richt but they are really doing pretty decent right now with a lot of flashy players
next year could be the jackpot just like you said. shite, our QB depth is already decided up until 2017. so really it is best for UGA if richt can succeed, but he HAS to do something this year. we just have too much coming back to not. really if we could demote bobo to QB coach, fire tony ball and bryan mcclendon and bring a new OC and ST coach i'd be thrilled, i can keep richt. but richt has to meet fans in the middle because bobo is awful
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:39 am to Damn Good Dawg
I'm a little disappointed I missed out on the initial tard shock wave of this thread 
Looks like DGD has this shite under control, though. That Horse shite line is quality, my friend
Looks like DGD has this shite under control, though. That Horse shite line is quality, my friend
Posted on 1/17/12 at 11:01 am to Gumpalicious
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What are the goals of the UGA program?
Profitability. And in that regard the AD has bee very successful.
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