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re: What year has the SEC East been most down?

Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:14 am to
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:14 am to
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Definitely 2010.

#22 South Carolina 5-3, 9-5
Florida 4-4, 8-5
Georgia 3-5, 6-7
Tennessee 3-5, 6-7
Kentucky 2-6, 6-7
Vanderbilt 1-7, 2-10


And that 8 win Florida was not a good team, either.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:16 am to
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If MSU, OM and Arky were the top three teams in the West this year, we'd all say the West was down and everyone would understand what that meant.


Not if two of them were in the Top 5 in the Country at the end of the season.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:17 am to
OK, you and the Mizzous wouldn't say that.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:17 am to
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2010 - Winner: SCAR. 5-3, FL 4-4, UGA 3-5, Tenn 3-5.

2011 - Winner: UGA. 7-1, FL 3-5, Tenn 1-7.


Overall 2010 SECe SEC Record, including UK and Vandy: 18-30

Overall 2011 SECe Record, including UK and Vandy: 21-27

Overall 2007 SECe Record, including UK and Vandy: 25-23

So 2007 actually turned out to be a pretty good season relative the other season's listed but there is only a 3 game difference between 2010 and 2011, nothing to write home about.


I'd also like to think that if it weren't for the Plague hitting UGA and UF's locker rooms I believe their SEC records would've been much better this past season. The reason 2013 is in contention is because people knocking Mizzou for an easy ride to the SECCG, which these records may not properly show.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:18 am to
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Well, everyone but the Mizzous


Entirely depends, IF MSU, OM and Arky beat every west and east team then went out and beat tOSU, FSU and Oregon or whoever is supposedly the best non SEC teams while bringing home the crystal, then yea I wouldn't say that the West was down.



This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 10:24 am
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:19 am to
Fans of crappy teams alwasy say the division is down when thier teams suck...thats how they justify losses.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:24 am to
I'd also like to note that SC, Mizzou, UK, and Vandy could all be national title contenders in a single year but as long as UT, UF, and UGA have records like they did last year the division will always be considered down because of the weight those names carry.
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:26 am to
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I'd also like to note that SC, Mizzou, UK, and Vandy could all be national title contenders in a single year but as long as UT, UF, and UGA have records like they did last year the division will always be considered down because of the weight those names carry.



SC though is slowly working its way into carrying the same weight as UT, UF, and UGA.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:27 am to
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Fans of crappy teams alwasy say the division is down when thier teams suck...thats how they justify losses.


Um, to justify losses, would said fan claim that the other division teams were not down.

I'm not getting your logic.

I've never heard anyone say the reason their team was down was because the division was down.
Posted by dhuck20
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:29 am to
2007 is not like the others here. UGA was one of the best teams in the country. Finished #2. Absolutely killed undefeated Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:31 am to
It was Hawaii
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:46 am to
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Fans of crappy teams alwasy say the division is down when thier teams suck...thats how they justify losses.


Clearly homer glasses play a large part in this argument(like everything else here) but can we all agree that a 10 win season even though you didn't beat a rival or win your division is not a "down year"?

I know some won't agree but I think most will. So USC isn't down, obviously FL and TN are down but how down is UGA? The loss to Vandy is the big sh*t stain on their season, wins there and vs Aubbie and they are right in the hunt.

If that ball doesn't bounce for the war-tigers then UGA wins that one and Mizzou plays a slower offense in ATL and we are talking about how the down East beat the down West. That one play could easily have changed the entire outcome of the SEC this year.

So if one play could have put the SEC East in the NC title game then I will ask again, just why IS THE WEST down and how long and far will it go?



Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:52 am to
2013 was the best year for the East. The worm has turned and there are new traditional powers in the eastern division of the SEC. I understand how a conference, and a people in general, that are so concerned about history and tradition are not ready to admit that the way things have been in the past no longer applies. So I get why this thread exists.

I fully expect Kentucky-type renovations to take place at Sanford and BHG in the coming decade to reflect their new roles in the division.

Tennessee is done as well.
Posted by Wardamnbulldog
Member since May 2014
648 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:55 am to
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2013 was the best year for the East
quote:

new traditional powers in the eastern division of the SEC


when was the last time Mizzou won a national title again? it was in a recent thread wasnt it?
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:59 am to
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when was the last time Mizzou won a national title again? it was in a recent thread wasnt it?



Here we go again, SEC fans embracing the past to avoid having to see the future.

Look ahead my friend, look ahead.
Posted by Wardamnbulldog
Member since May 2014
648 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:02 am to
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SEC fans embracing the past to avoid having to see the future.


Big 6 is a tradition...

quote:

A tradition is a belief or behavior passed down within a group or society with symbolic meaning or special significance with origins in the past.




cant fix stupid
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 11:03 am
Posted by A$AP Cocky
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:04 am to
2010 was pretty shitty

our record should've been better if only Garcia would have played consistently
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:05 am to
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Well, everyone but the Mizzous

Not really....we were told when we joined the league "you're in the SEC now, work on depth and no whining about injuries". Look we didn't make the rules but you can bet your arse we'll remind you of them everytime you whine about injuries.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:05 am to
I didn't say Big 6, you looked into the past and stated something based on past expectations.

My point is that there are new powers in the East, and those new powers will become the new traditional powers of the east in the future.

I can understand your desire to look into the past for some reason to believe your time is not done, but it is. It's time to confront that fact with a brave face, not continue living in the past and talking about a made up "Big 6."

Let me know when they announce your renovations focusing on better "fan experience" while reducing capacity. Thanks.
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 11:06 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:08 am to
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The loss to Vandy is the big sh*t stain on their season, 


That was a sh!tstain on the conference, referees, and rules. 4th and blown by the refs. Should have been ballgame.
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