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re: Well we are getting close to Ole Miss vs Ncaa

Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:32 am to
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:32 am to
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When Bama escaped the death penalty after its 4th major violation in 14 years which fell into the NCAA repeat offender status and the NCAA was stating that Bama was in fact facing the death penalty and they failed to deal the death blow to Bama, the NCAA should never again give the dealth penalty to any program or even suggest a program is facing the death penalty...



Alabama cooperated. OleMiss had staffers that lied and withheld information during the NCAA investigation. OleMiss failed to monitor the activities of their own Asst AD and kept him on payroll during the investigation and only recently canned his arse after they got wind of the Amended NOA where he was nailed for even more violations while under the NCAA microscope. Barney Farrar was rouge and didn't even check up and shut that booster shite down during the investigation.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:33 am to
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When Bama escaped the death penalty after its 4th major violation in 14 years


3rd violation...2 of which were major.

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NCAA was stating that Bama was in fact facing the death penalty and they failed to deal the death blow to Bama


They said "staring down barrel of a gun", but whatever. They also talked about Bama's level of working with the ncaa, which likely "saved" them (though how much can you be "saved" when you still lose 21 scholarships)



Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77298 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 11:10 am to
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They also talked about Bama's level of working with the ncaa, which likely "saved" them


Of course they are going to say this...they didn't want to pull the trigger on Bama when they had no problem pulling the trigger on SMU which too were repeat offenders less than 15 years prior at the time...how much "coorperating" are you actually doing when you continue to violate NCAA rules...but whatever...
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30208 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 1:42 pm to
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Of course they are going to say this...they didn't want to pull the trigger on Bama when they had no problem pulling the trigger on SMU which too were repeat offenders less than 15 years prior at the time...how much "coorperating" are you actually doing when you continue to violate NCAA rules...but whatever...


Exactly why OleMiss gets the guillotine.

The NCAA is on campus all up in your business for months and months on end non stop and Barney was working deals between boosters/recruits out the back door while NCAA investigators are still snooping around?

Freeze/Bjork/OM Compliance failed to monitor every move Barney made even after the NCAA gave them a heads up about what they were gathering.

Tunsil gets loaner car, he serves his suspension....then goes on to get more loaner cars after the fact. Freeze/Bjork failed to monitor what their player was driving AFTER the NCAA had already slapped their hands?

WTF? To continue on doing business as usual while under investigation and never even checking up or make an attempt to walk the straight and narrow when you know the NCAA is on a fricking witch hunt is asinine on one hand and down right stupid on the other.
This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 11:02 am to
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The difference is Alabama cooperated with the NCAA. Ole Miss is not.


this is simply not true. Ole Miss has cooperated with the NCAA to a fault...non cooperation is the 2010 Auburn thing.
Posted by CowTownReb
Member since Jan 2013
353 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 3:32 pm to
Certain teams like Ole Miss, MSU, Kentucky, Vandy and so on, simply exist so that they can be kinda good, but never great. Their job is to prop up the premiere schools in the league, so that those schools can go on to achieve greatness.

Alabama, Florida, LSU, and the other top teams have to stand on the shoulders of someone.

Those schools I listed will never win a national championship in our lifetimes. Effectively, they only ever play for pride. So, whether it's a school on probation or not -- there is never anything more at stake than just that.

I thought people knew this by now? This is the way the game has been and always will be.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 5:17 pm to
Death penalty isn't happening but it will be equivalent to mid 2000s Bama where you will wish the program were dead and could just start over. Our talent level back then was literally at about a Vandy or Mizzou level.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 5:23 pm to
The Alabama case showed that its best not to coorporate with the NCAA. Remember Maurice Clarett refusing to answer the phone when the NCAA called. They just said "oh well" and moved on
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12171 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 6:01 pm to
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it will be equivalent to mid 2000s Bama where you will wish the program were dead and could just start over. Our talent level back then was literally at about a Vandy or Mizzou level.
Y'all should've never gotten rid of Shula then. He should've been COY in 2005 if that was Vandy level talent
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51378 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 6:53 pm to
Shula still outrecruited Auburn.
Posted by TrueReb13
Member since Feb 2015
1623 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 7:18 pm to
Mullen boys says "NFL draft day pissed off NCAA and public ". If that is the case, why was there nothing at all in the 2nd NOA concerning draft night allegations?
Posted by TrueReb13
Member since Feb 2015
1623 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 7:19 pm to
Mullen boys says "NFL draft day pissed off NCAA and public ". If that is the case, why was there nothing at all in the 2nd NOA concerning draft night allegations?
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 10:51 pm to
Tunsil got more loaner cars? Well, he had announced for the draft and dropped out of school.

Is that a violation?
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7360 posts
Posted on 6/3/17 at 11:28 pm to
After Galen Hall ran Florida into trouble, The UF athletic dept has made a firm decision to NEVER run afoul of the NCAA. And every coach since then has been clean as a whistle.
Posted by tigercreole
United States of Russia
Member since Jul 2013
3294 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 7:48 am to
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After Galen Hall ran Florida into trouble, The UF athletic dept has made a firm decision to NEVER run afoul of the NCAA. And every coach since then has been clean as a whistle.

Except the Will Grier steroid case which Coach Gum-Disease had happen at Colorado State and is known to take place at Bama where he once coached.

And Calloway, Treon Harris, etc. But carry on, please.
This post was edited on 6/4/17 at 7:50 am
Posted by whoyodaddy
Ono Island
Member since Nov 2011
559 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:32 am to
If the NCAA again (don't forget UNC) fails to be an effective policeman, they will lose whatever credibility they still have. Corrupt college administrators will be emboldened to allow corrupt coaches and programs to run rampant with their recruiting. Increasing numbers of high school coaches (not all) will be have their hand out. Numbers of self-serving "handlers" will grow exponentially leading kids to corrupt programs for their reasons($), not the recruits' reasons. And more recruits than ever will be corrupted at a young age with expectations that life is only about the dollar, not realizing that the bulk of them will on the streets without a true education 4 years later. The concept of improving oneself through "education" will be extinct for this population; the concept of the "scholar-athlete" will be laid to rest for many more. And ultimately, the NCAA will further open the taboo discussion of paying their "scholar" athletes.

The NCAA better do something-and do it big.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:36 am to
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Mullen boys says "NFL draft day pissed off NCAA and public ". If that is the case, why was there nothing at all in the 2nd NOA concerning draft night allegations?



You are still believing shite from an AD who has lied and mislead about every single thing to date For a law school y'all are some stupid asses.
Posted by mls4bama
albertville,al
Member since Sep 2015
1537 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:40 am to
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46462 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:48 am to
Urban Meyer was clean as a whistle.

You're claiming this?
Posted by Retrograde
TX
Member since Jul 2014
2900 posts
Posted on 6/4/17 at 8:57 am to
I don't want to see Ole Piss get the death penalty for one. Seeing them get sodomized on game day every year is enjoyable, and I don't want to lose that.
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