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re: Was it wise for Ole Miss to give Hugh Freeze a raise so soon?
Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:48 am to Lumberg321
Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:48 am to Lumberg321
where's my car?
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Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:49 am to finestfirst79
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I'm not trying to start crap, but one thing I definitely wondered when going to the Ole Miss game... where are all the black people?
I wondered the same thing at A&M. Your history is not much better as is any Southern school. Times have changed and people grow. STFU with that bullshite.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 9:54 am to Lumberg321
Sweet!
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:00 am to AngryBeavers
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:01 am to Hardy_Har
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Full denial
What am I denying?
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please keep acting surprised when the outsiders call OM racist or use undertoned innuendos
How am I acting surprised? What have I said/done that suggests that I'm surprised by any of this? It's not surprising; that doesn't mean that it's also not frustrating.
Am I surprised that there are stupid, myopic, biased, insecure idiots out there who are going to believe whatever makes them feel better? Nope, and I'm definitely not surprised that you're one of them.
I openly acknowledge Ole Miss' problems on this board a lot. I call out Ole Miss fans and students pretty often. Maybe if you weren't a moron you'd see this. I realize that I see the world through red and blue goggles, but I try my best to look at things objectively and, objectively, Ole Miss as an institution is no more hostile to minorities than any other SEC school. I can't find any reason to think otherwise.
And, yeah, calling my alma mater racist gets me bent the frick out of shape. Deal with it, you poor.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:04 am to DCRebel
It's amazing that people throw around the race card like they do. I hate to tell you Hardy, but when you do that it makes ALL OF MS look bad. The fans/studets of MSU are just alike. You work together, live by each other, go to the same churches and schools.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:12 am to West Monroe
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The fans/studets of MSU are just alike. You work together, live by each other, go to the same churches and schools.
That's the thing, they do this to convince themselves that they're "better" than us.
And while I don't think that Ole Miss and State people are as similar as you make them out to be, we certainly are from the same patch of Earth, went to the same high schools, played on the same little league teams, went to the same churches - we have a shitload in common.
Honestly, with the disproportionate amount of media attention we get (both good and bad) and the recent beatdown in the Egg Bowl, I should have seen this coming. They do the "well y'all are WAYCESS" shite when they have nothing to fall back on.
It's fricking sad.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:14 am to DaleDenton
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Generally, you wouldn't expect your coach to receive a raise for 6-6 seasons or chic-fil-a bowl bids
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Most schools didn't lose ten fricking games last year
hell y'all blew an easy win and screwed this up!!
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:23 am to DCRebel
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That's the thing, they do this to convince themselves that they're "better" than us.
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And while I don't think that Ole Miss and State people are as similar as you make them out to be
You contradict yourself you self-righteous titty baby.
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It's fricking sad
Yes it was. 2 lives were lost on the OM campus.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:38 am to Hardy_Har
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We were mostly all racist in MS back then. There was a rally by the flagpole on the MSU drill field, the afternoon that Meredith was being admitted to Ole Miss. Many hundreds, perhaps over a thousand or so MSU students gathered to protest. And hear inflamatory speeches, and encouragement to go to Oxford. I was there. Many hundreds of MSU guys did that, perhaps a thousand or so. I don't know how to measure crowd sizes nor responses.
I just went back to the dorm that night, and watched the riot on TV in the lobby, since we weren't allowed TV in our rooms back then. Some of my friends went up there, and got arrested, and missed a week or so of classes.
In retrospect, that was really dumb, but that's the world of Mississippi, 50 years ago. The paradigm has shifted, indeed. For the better!
Unfortunately, the rest of the world still measures us through that prism.
LINK
Now STFU cocksucker.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:41 am to Hardy_Har
Jimmy Sexton was supposedly very impressed with Bjorks proactive approach on the contract. I would have liked to see an even bigger raise for the assistants.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:41 am to jeff967
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hell y'all blew an easy win and screwed this up!!
Dude... Dale Denton is an Arkansas fan who supports the raise. Don't be that guy.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:42 am to Hardy_Har
Hardy_Har
do you know about this Mississippi State Alumni?
Robert B Patterson, I'll let you do your on research
do you know about this Mississippi State Alumni?
Robert B Patterson, I'll let you do your on research
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:43 am to Hardy_Har
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You contradict yourself you self-righteous titty baby.
I injected some nuance into the discussion. It's a gray area. You can't see it outside of "black or white" though, so I totally get why you think I contradicted myself.
You're a simpleton.
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Yes it was. 2 lives were lost on the OM campus.
And it's sad and borderline offensive that you find it completely acceptable to turn this watershed moment in the Civil Rights Era into fodder for a football rivalry, and what's even worse is that you can't possibly see how foolish you're being in doing so.
You still haven't answered my questions from earlier, Hardy. Why were State students on the Ole Miss campus on that day in 1962 and why didn't State integrate until three years later?
Thanks.
ETA: And my point in asking this question isn't to "one up" anyone, but rather to point out that the problems we've had aren't exactly unique to us.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 10:47 am
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:45 am to OBReb6
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We were mostly all racist in MS back then. There was a rally by the flagpole on the MSU drill field, the afternoon that Meredith was being admitted to Ole Miss. Many hundreds, perhaps over a thousand or so MSU students gathered to protest. And hear inflamatory speeches, and encouragement to go to Oxford. I was there. Many hundreds of MSU guys did that, perhaps a thousand or so. I don't know how to measure crowd sizes nor responses.
I just went back to the dorm that night, and watched the riot on TV in the lobby, since we weren't allowed TV in our rooms back then. Some of my friends went up there, and got arrested, and missed a week or so of classes.
In retrospect, that was really dumb, but that's the world of Mississippi, 50 years ago. The paradigm has shifted, indeed. For the better!
Unfortunately, the rest of the world still measures us through that prism.
LINK
Now STFU cocksucker.
Your information must be twisted OBReb. Everyone knows that Mississippi State is the people's university that has always welcomed people of every gender, race, and creed since the day it was founded and that Ole Miss is a black hole of seething bigotry.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 10:51 am to DCRebel
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borderline offensive
frick You
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It's a blue and gray area
FIFY
quote:I never wished anything bad on OM, it was all easily brought upon itself. "We will not drink from the cup of Genocide."- Ross Barnett
see how foolish you're being in doing so.
In conclusion- Your P.O.S. Alma Mater is in fact the most racial tension riddled college in America.
Yes, I am aware MSU has a cow with a hole in it's stomach and am willing to accept that.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:01 am to Hardy_Har
So what do you have to say about my link, arse clown?
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:26 am to Hardy_Har
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borderline offensive
frick You
Great to see that you're willing to discuss your nonsense.
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It's a blue and gray area
FIFY
Dude... dude. You're from Mississippi. You can't run Civil War smack on someone else from Mississippi. Jesus...
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"We will not drink from the cup of Genocide."- Ross Barnett
Why do you keep quoting Barnett as if that's some indictment of Ole Miss? It's not like he was the Chancellor of Ole Miss. He was the GOVERNOR OF MISSISSIPPI you numbnuts. Pointing out how much of a bigot he was implicates YOU as much as it does ME.
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Your P.O.S. Alma Mater is in fact the most racial tension riddled college in America.
If it's such "in fact" then, please, demonstrate as much. Thanks in advance. (Or, maybe you don't know what "facts" are.)
And, again, as my posts on this forum can attest, I'm not entirely oblivious to the difficulties Ole Miss faces. My point is that it's not as simple as "OLD MISS IS RAYCESS AND EVERYBODY ELSE ISN'T LOL," and that anyone who views it as such is a dumbass.
This post was edited on 12/18/12 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:31 am to Hardy_Har
I don't understand what your trying to say. Yes we did foolish stuff in 62 but all if MS did at the time. It wasn't just OM. Now Meridith walk around the grove and everyone lines up to take a picture with him. Quit acting like we have the same mindset that we did 50 years ago.
Posted on 12/18/12 at 11:34 am to DCRebel
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Dude... dude. You're from Mississippi. You can't run Civil War smack on someone else from Mississippi. Jesus...
It appears to me that one of the biggest impacts OM has had on Mississippi is converting State fans away from neo-confederatism. At least on message boards.
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