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re: VOLS will not give Cuonzo a raise from $1.3M according to Rivals mod
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:02 pm to WildcatMike
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:02 pm to WildcatMike
IDGAF about how boring it is. I want Ws.
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Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:11 pm to undecided
He got called out after under performing through out half this year and all of last year(outside the to little to late - late season push) with talent that should have been a fixture in the t25, among other things.
Just because AU is ecstatic to put up anything close to a .500 record, doesn't mean the rest of us settle for mediocrity.
He underperformed vastly at times, and after 2 3/4 year he got called out for it. Don't act like you know shite about what was going on inside of the UT men's basketball program going back to CCMs start other than what you've read on here or saw on ESPN. You sound like a moron
Just because AU is ecstatic to put up anything close to a .500 record, doesn't mean the rest of us settle for mediocrity.
He underperformed vastly at times, and after 2 3/4 year he got called out for it. Don't act like you know shite about what was going on inside of the UT men's basketball program going back to CCMs start other than what you've read on here or saw on ESPN. You sound like a moron
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:11 pm to volfan30
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I don't think Cuonzo is a bad coach at all. His real problem is loyalty to a dogshit staff.
edit: based on what? They're learning just as he is.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:16 pm to TRUERockyTop
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He got called out after under performing through out half this year and all of last year(outside the to little to late - late season push) with talent that should have been a fixture in the t25, among other things.
I was critical of Zo when he warranted criticism but the man has grown as a coach. I think a lot of folks forget he's VERY young as a head coach yet we're seeing year to year improvement and coaching in the Tourney that is flat out incredible. Don't let some dumbshits on a message board bait you into not seeing the progress here. Zo is on his way and we'd be better off keeping him than losing him.
The question won't be IF he's extended/gets a pay raise but by how MUCH.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:26 pm to Prof
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we'd be better off keeping him than losing him.
This is all dependent on who would replace him.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:26 pm to volfan30
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IDGAF about how boring it is. I want Ws.
Howland was fired in part for underachieving at UCLA as well as it being boring to watch.
Why Tennessee fans want to replace Counzo with a coach just like him, but 20 years older, and pay him twice as much is something that is going to have to be explained...
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:30 pm to Prof
Volzheimer's Disease prevents Tennessee fans from realizing that continual coaching changes will cause their athletic program to sink further and further into irrelevancy.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:31 pm to Prof
I absolutely see the leaps and bounds he's made, as well as the buy-in from this team.
I'm just clarifying this for the dumb asses that much of his criticism was justifiable. Does a sweet 16 appearance gain faith with the fan base? Absolutely, and IMO thankfully so.
Does it erase some of his body of work/body language/what appeared to be a lack of emotion in game and what many of us felt like were missed in game adjustments from coaching decisions or lack there of? Basically the complete story or inner workings of what's going on. No, it doesn't.
I'll be the first to proclaim how happy I am for the success he's having, but I'm also gonna call a spade a spade when I see one as well.
Go Vols
I'm just clarifying this for the dumb asses that much of his criticism was justifiable. Does a sweet 16 appearance gain faith with the fan base? Absolutely, and IMO thankfully so.
Does it erase some of his body of work/body language/what appeared to be a lack of emotion in game and what many of us felt like were missed in game adjustments from coaching decisions or lack there of? Basically the complete story or inner workings of what's going on. No, it doesn't.
I'll be the first to proclaim how happy I am for the success he's having, but I'm also gonna call a spade a spade when I see one as well.
Go Vols
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:32 pm to undecided
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Volzheimer's Disease prevents Tennessee fans from realizing that continual coaching changes will cause their athletic program to sink further and further into irrelevancy.
Because keeping around mediocre to awful coaches is clearly the way to go.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:36 pm to ohiovol
Welp apparently some of your volnation comrades have started a Change.org Petition to get Cunzo a raise.
You guys are really starting to embarrass tBig6. This is Arky level right here
You guys are really starting to embarrass tBig6. This is Arky level right here
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:40 pm to undecided
Coming from the team who hired the guy we fired for unethical conduct. Although I agree that's Auburn level behavior.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:44 pm to ohiovol
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:48 pm to ohiovol
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Coming from the team who hired the guy we fired for unethical conduct. Although I agree that's Auburn level behavior.
You mean the guy over 20,000 of your fans signed another petition to re-hire? That guy?
I mean what's up with Tennessee fans and petitions lately
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:07 pm to undecided
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You guys are really starting to embarrass tBig6. This is Arky level right here
If there's an Arky (ranters) comparison to be made it's on some (though not all) Aubie fans getting so overly excited about Pearl that no amount of jizz jars can contain it all. He's a good coach to be sure and a great hire for Aubie but many of you have gone full retard because of it. How many threads did you start? And how many has he kept popping up in even when the thread isn't remotely related to Bruce? If you're honest, you'll realize that the mania has been that over the top.
As to UT...there's little question CCM deserved criticism when we were having awful losses against bad teams despite having sooo much talent and he received it because fans had nothing to hang their hats on. There's also no question that he deserves a raise and our praise. This tourney has given the Vol faithful reason to believe in CCM will step beyond mediocrity and perhaps even become an elite coach. We had no reason, other than hope, to believe that before the last few weeks of this season and the tourney - which have shown a consistent and well coached team.
Yet in sharp contrast to the various manias that have swept the rant, not only have we kept our criticisms and praise confined to game threads and the occasional single topic thread but we certainly haven't spammed the board or every thread we can regardless of subject on it.
In other words, that giant moat in your eye: you might want to clear it before you talk about the speck in ours.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:28 pm to Prof
Anybody have a link to basketball head coaching salaries?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:48 pm to undecided
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You mean the guy over 20,000 of your fans signed another petition to re-hire? That guy?
I know 20,000 sounds enormous compared to Auburn's 9,121 basketball capacity and Auburn's average attendance of 5,823 people, most of whom were tricked into attending and ~500 of whom are actual basketball fans, but it's really not a large number. Our basketball team is listed the 15th most valuable basketball team in the country and we have a rather large fanbase. 20,000 basketball fans, even frustrated ones who at one time had a reason to be frustrated, is a negligible amount given the size of our overall fan base.
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I mean what's up with Tennessee fans and petitions lately
Petitions are a means of expressing an opinion, venting frustration, and/or making a statement. It's an opportunity to be heard and most in politics and at universities hear them even if they don't necessarily give the petitioners their wish. The White House has a site for petitions and in a country of over 300 million will respond to a petition that reaches 100,000 signatures (originally the threshold was 5k and then 25k).
The right to petition is as old as the Magna Carta and is enshrined in our constitution as well as a fundamental pillar of democracy. It's also something that isn't limited to government and it's hardly a bad thing that people care enough to make a statement even if it's just a signature.
I'd be far more worried if my fan base was so non-existent and apathetic that it could only fill 50 percent of the seats in its already tiny basketball arena.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 12:06 am to Smalls
This is from 2013 and a tad out of date.
CCM's pay in 2013 was negotiated on par with his prior experience/resume (he'd only coached for three years in a non-football D1 conference before being hired by UT) but he's also due a big fat raise based on more experience and performance.
It should be noted some coaches structure their pay differently - some get paid far more from 'other' negotiated deals with their schools than from the direct salary for various reasons so true pay is hard to discern.
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NOTE: Performances bonuses are not reflected in these figures.
1.) John Calipari, Kentucky: $4.2 million through 2018-19 *
2.) Billy Donovan, Florida: $3.5 million through 2015-16
3.) Mike Anderson, Arkansas: $2.2 million through 2017-18
4.) Kevin Stallings, Vanderbilt: $2.1 million through ??? **
5.) Anthony Grant, Alabama: $1.9 million through 2018-19 ***
Frank Martin, South Carolina: $1.9 million through 2016-17
7.) Mark Fox, Georgia: $1.7 million through 2015-16
8.) Frank Haith, Missouri: $1.6 million through 2015-16 ****
9.) Tony Barbee, Auburn: $1.5 million through 2016-17
10.) Cuonzo Martin, Tennessee: $1.3 million through 2015-16
11.) Andy Kennedy, Ole Miss: $1.3 million through 2014-15 *****
12.) Johnny Jones, LSU: $1.1 million through 2016-17
13.) Billy Kennedy, Texas A&M: $1.0 million through 2015-16
Rick Ray, Mississippi State: $1.0 million through 2015-16
* Calipari received a $400,000 raise after signing a new deal with UK last May. Included in the deal is a $1 million retention bonus if he remains in Lexington through July 1, 2013. Happy Fourth of July, Cal.
** Vanderbilt is a private institution and does not release salary figures. The number above associated with Stallings comes from VU's 2010-11 990 tax form, when the school reported he was paid $2,056,409. Stallings recently said, "I think that the maximum number of years that my present contract can go for is till 2019."
*** Grant signed a one-year extension and accepted a $100,000 raise in September.
**** One year will automatically be added to Haith's contract if he remains at Mizzou through April.
***** While numerous SEC coaches received performance bonuses for reaching postseason play, Andy Kennedy received $100,000 before the season even ended. That was a bonus in his contract simply for reaching 10 SEC wins in the regular season. The Rebels finished 12-6.
CCM's pay in 2013 was negotiated on par with his prior experience/resume (he'd only coached for three years in a non-football D1 conference before being hired by UT) but he's also due a big fat raise based on more experience and performance.
It should be noted some coaches structure their pay differently - some get paid far more from 'other' negotiated deals with their schools than from the direct salary for various reasons so true pay is hard to discern.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:00 pm to Prof
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Jason King 2h
Not saying he's the No. 1 guy, but don't be surprised if Cuonzo Martin's name surfaces in the Marquette coaching search.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:23 pm to volfan30
Well they are a basketball school and normally make better basketball hires than ya'll.... If they go after him, I'd trust their judgement over yours. The guy can coach.. but ya'll are damn sure eager to ship him out.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:35 pm to ChargerDog91
He has not done a good job the last 2 years outside of the last 3 weeks. He is average. Better than Rick Ray? Yes. But overall, he's a mediocre coach in a horrible league.
As far as us making poor hires, 3 of our last 4 hires have made the sweet 16. 2 of those never missed an NCAA tourney. We have been pretty damn solid the last 16-17 years.
As far as us making poor hires, 3 of our last 4 hires have made the sweet 16. 2 of those never missed an NCAA tourney. We have been pretty damn solid the last 16-17 years.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 7:37 pm
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