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re: Vegas oddsmakers say UA would be 24pt underdog to KC Chiefs, per Dan Patrick.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:33 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:33 pm to WG_Dawg
I can see Bama covering with ease. Bama D would have KC QB running for his life, and AJ would just have to throw towards Travis Daniels.
They get 155 rushing a game. I could see Bama giving up more than their 55 ypg average, maybe allow around 80 yards rushing against them.
They get 155 rushing a game. I could see Bama giving up more than their 55 ypg average, maybe allow around 80 yards rushing against them.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:33 pm to bobbyray21
Outside of the 1st round picks, how many of Saban's players are NFL Starters? William Valachos(sp?) took McElroy's spot on Fbaum yesterday. . . And speaking of McElroy, if he can't beat the Sanchize and Teabow for a starting position he will never be an NFL-caliber QB
So all this talk of Bama beating an NFL team is pretty weak if the majority of the players get cut before the season even starts meaning they're not even good enough to be on the practice squad
So all this talk of Bama beating an NFL team is pretty weak if the majority of the players get cut before the season even starts meaning they're not even good enough to be on the practice squad
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:33 pm to WG_Dawg
they could take SOS
Bamma D and O line
Oregon offense and still 8 out of 10 times would lose to the bottom of barrel NFL
Bamma D and O line
Oregon offense and still 8 out of 10 times would lose to the bottom of barrel NFL
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:33 pm to WG_Dawg
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that's another thing. So many rookies say by far the biggest adjustment from college to pro is the speed. Just like going from high school to the SEC. The game is just on another level
I agree, but you have to remember that we're not talking about an average NFL team. We're talking about the worst team in the NFL which is often the result of poor coaching, gameplanning, toxic lockerroom, etc...
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:36 pm to Alahunter
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I can see Bama covering with ease. Bama D would have KC QB running for his life, and AJ would just have to throw towards Travis Daniels.
They get 155 rushing a game. I could see Bama giving up more than their 55 ypg average, maybe allow around 80 yards rushing against them.
Dear Lord. KC would rush for 200+. Those mammoth grown men NFL veterans would simply push bama's DL around.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:36 pm to WG_Dawg
I honestly would bet every thing I have on KC.
House, autos, savings, health, wife, dog. Everything.
To suggest that Bama would come remotely close is unfathomable.
House, autos, savings, health, wife, dog. Everything.
To suggest that Bama would come remotely close is unfathomable.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:38 pm to WG_Dawg
HAHAHA
Nah. Really. Jesse can bench 600 lbs. He'd get enough push to take care of the center and a guard, leaving Moseley free to come in and stuff the run. I'm not saying they wouldn't do good. I mean, I gave them about 50% more yardage than Bama gives up now. 80 yards a game feels about right.
Nah. Really. Jesse can bench 600 lbs. He'd get enough push to take care of the center and a guard, leaving Moseley free to come in and stuff the run. I'm not saying they wouldn't do good. I mean, I gave them about 50% more yardage than Bama gives up now. 80 yards a game feels about right.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:39 pm to bulldawger
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To suggest that Bama would come remotely close is unfathomable.
24 points isn't close.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:39 pm to WG_Dawg
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Two things:
1)A future NFL star as a freshman or sophomore in college isn't near as good as he is when he hits his potential. Was Tom Brady as good in 1998 as he was in 2008? Just because they go on to be great doesn't mean they're always good all the time.
2)Bama (using this example from the OP) this year has plenty of NFL talent. But not every player on the team will play in the NFL. Not all will get drafted, and not all that drafted will make an impact. Some might not get higher than 2nd string, some might not make a practice squad. Then you're gonna put that up against a team full of 22 NFL starters, who were good enough to beat out other NFL caliber athletes to start for their team.
In one or two particular instances like maaaayybeeee one of bama's OL 1v1 against a KC DL, the bama player could get the better of him and win the day. But across the board, 22 on 22, it's just simply absurd to think a college team could stay close with a bunch of grown arse NFL pros.
I'm not familiar enough with Bama's D to go through each spot and tell you who would be playing on Sundays right now if they were allowed to be. But I've done that exercise before with some past great college teams, and there have been several college defenses where it was safe to say that it was an NFL unit. Or not appreciably worse. Like you have four maybe five guys on the college team who are DEFINITELY better while they are in college than the equivalent pro guy on the worst team. And then you've got three or four who are worse, but who would probably still get drafted. And then another few where it's basically a wash.
I don't even think you would disagree with the above. Or maybe you do because you think the difference between a 21 year old man and a 23 year old man is much greater than I believe it to be.
And I certainly don't disagree with you on the issue of depth. But we're not askign the college team to play a full season. We're just finding 11-15 NFL caliber players on one unit of the college team. And if we can do that, is it really corret to say that they couldn't stay with them in a single game?
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:40 pm to FlukerFlakes
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24 points isn't close.
Neither is 56-0.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:47 pm to Alahunter
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HAHAHA
Nah. Really. Jesse can bench 600 lbs. He'd get enough push to take care of the center and a guard, leaving Moseley free to come in and stuff the run. I'm not saying they wouldn't do good. I mean, I gave them about 50% more yardage than Bama gives up now. 80 yards a game feels about right.
I imagine you as a window licker.
Jamaal Charles is a potential to bust out for an 80 yard play at any point in the game, against NFL defenses.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:48 pm to wadewilson
Psh. He'd average about 3.2 ypc. Besides, they wouldn't see the field too much. Lacy and Yeldon would run circles around Dorsey, problem breaking 6 or 7 explosive runs and a couple of TD's of 15+ yds.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:49 pm to Alahunter
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Alahunter
Did you ever stop and think that comparing stats is worthless since, ya know..bamas came against college teams and kc's came against pros?
Using your logic, the highest scoring 1AAA team would probably score about 25 on bama
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:50 pm to StPeteLSU
LSU fans don't seem to realize how bad this thread has trolled them.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:51 pm to WG_Dawg
I can see KC scoring. They have Javy afterall. I don't doubt they'd get a KR or two for TD's with him running it back.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:51 pm to Tigerdew
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Any NFL team could name their score on any college team. I can't believe this shite is even being discussed.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:51 pm to Alahunter
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Alahunter
stop trolling
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:52 pm to Choctaw
Doesn't matter how outrageous I make it, some think it's serious.
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:53 pm to WG_Dawg
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Did you ever stop and think that comparing stats is worthless since, ya know..bamas came against college teams and kc's came against pros?
Using your logic, the highest scoring 1AAA team would probably score about 25 on bama
OK, how bout this...
Could 2012 Bama hang with NFL teams today better than the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers did with Steve Spurrier at QB?
"The Bucs' debut season was football's equivalent of the 1962 Mets -- but without the wit of Casey Stengel to make things a bit more entertaining. The Bucs were shut out five times and averaged fewer than nine points per game. Their defense was almost as futile, and the Bucs' margin of defeat was 20 points per game. Tampa Bay's quarterback, Steve Spurrier, threw only seven touchdown passes all season. His longest completion was 38 yards. The Bucs carried their losing momentum into the 1977 season, losing another 12, to begin their franchise history 26 games in the red."
Posted on 10/31/12 at 1:53 pm to bobbyray21
Why is that a fact and not disputable? because you said so?
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