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re: University of Arkansas enrollment grows past 60,000 students.

Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by KaiserSoze99
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:50 pm to
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I thought tamu was a subsidiary school in the University of Texas system?


That's what their wiki page says LINK


Poor Randy Duke has demanded an explanation from anyone in government who will listen. Dude is so agsessed, it has almost reached criminal insanity.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:50 pm to
Thats a bunch of pork!
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 2:54 pm to
UGA not having an engineering or medial school is the only reason we are not in the AAU. Years ago the state decided to separate them all, where other states consolidated them.

We have an engineering school and are creating medical degrees building towards our own medical school.

Posted by sealawyer
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:00 pm to
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Years ago the state decided to separate them all, where other states consolidated them.


Those schools being Ga Tech and MCG?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:03 pm to
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The AAU is weird though. Notre Dame isn't in yet they have schools like Iowa State, Kansas, and Rutgers. Nebraska got kicked out a few years ago just because their medical center isn't on campus.



Nebraska deserved to be kicked out, they aren't the research power they once were.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:05 pm to
It is weird, but Notre Dame has always been an education over research school from the start. Service academies fit this profile as well along with some top private schools.

Cardboxer, does not matter who started it, it matters that you contribute with the informed position of a member SEC school so "we" are untitled against those outside which to keep trying to portray the SEC as backwards and stupid.

Pretty sure in research and other metrics, UGA is well ahead of many outside the SEC who claim to be academically superior. Fight ignorance with truth and we all win. Pretty sure UGA is sitting just outside the Top 50 and well ahead of Nebraska and Indiana. Also fairly sure UGA is ahead of B12 AAU schools Kansas and Iowa State. Also, fairly sure UGA would be #2 behind only Texas in the current B12.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:09 pm to
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Nebraska deserved to be kicked out, they aren't the research power they once were.


First of all, they never were. Just a member of the "lucky sperm club" based on where they were located in 1900 when AAU formed (Indiana is the worst current offender here).

Second, it was 2 B1G schools who got Nebraska kicked of the AAU (what great conference members to have). You may be confusing "deserved" to "dumb" which might better describe Nebraska joining the B1G.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:22 pm to
The conspiracy is it was Texas who got them kicked out because their former president was in charge of the membership review committee at the time.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:27 pm to
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Cardboxer, does not matter who started it, it matters that you contribute with the informed position of a member SEC school so "we" are untitled against those outside which to keep trying to portray the SEC as backwards and stupid.


If a UGA fan wants to pretend A&M is some tier below his school I am going to call him out on it.

Otherwise as far as I am concerned there is a Big 4 academically in the SEC and UGA is part of that group.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:29 pm to
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The conspiracy is it was Texas


Reality was Michigan and Wisconsin if memory serves. Rumor has been going around the past few years there are cracks in the CIC in the blanket credit transfer rule was no longer what schools like Chicago wanted. Implication would be that the bottom 4 (Iowa + Nebraska + Indiana + ??) were no longer "equals" to the top 4. If you equate Rutgers to Illinois and Maryland to Michigan State, they are probably safe.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:30 pm to
Or a more simple explanation that a club isn't considered exclusive if you don't kick someone out every now and then.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:31 pm to
I didn't know y'all only had 27k students.
Posted by DoUrden
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:32 pm to
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State flagship public universities should really be more than 50% in-state.


Higher tuition rates for out of state, it's about $$$$$.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:34 pm to
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If a UGA fan wants to pretend A&M is some tier below his school I am going to call him out on it.


I thought you were raging with a Texas or Oklahoma troll who have invaded the Rant, my apology.

quote:

Big 4 academically


Vanderbilt
Florida
Texas A&M
Georgia

Seems correct

Kentucky
LSU

Moving quietly up, so if a "The 6" academic emerges, their membership would not be a surprise.

Missouri maybe #5 now, but needs to get this recent distraction righted so they can maintain their spot.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:38 pm to
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I thought you were raging with a Texas or Oklahoma troll who have invaded the Rant, my apology.



Eh it's cool, I would have assumed the same given how many Texas and OU trolls we have to deal with nowadays.

It almost makes me miss the old school ones that hid behind a LSU logo.
Posted by TailbackU
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:44 pm to
I'm convinced that about 30% or less of kids going to college are actually getting an education in something meaningful and worthwhile such as Engineering, the hard sciences, pre med, accounting, business, computer science, etc. ... the other 70%+ are being fleeced out of their money in bullshite worthless majors like gender studies, communications, photography, public administration, etc. just to keep the money mill running
This post was edited on 8/30/16 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:45 pm to
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Or a more simple explanation that a club isn't considered exclusive if you don't kick someone out every now and then.


Probably more they want more exclusive non sports schools (look at their modern additions) and kicking some 1900 schools out opens spots for school getting it done today. Nobody is seriously touting UCSD or UCD for membership in a power 5 conference, but my guess is that is the type schools AAU wants to add. Emory got in in 1995 and they are doing close to 600 million in research now. Iowa State got in in 1900 and they are doing about half that number (300 million) today.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:46 pm to
Yeah that makes sense.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:48 pm to
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I'm convinced that about 30% or less of kids going to college are actually getting an education in something meaningful and worthwhile such as Engineering, the hard sciences, pre med, accounting, business, computer science, etc. ... the other 70%+ are being fleeced out of their money in bullshite worthless majors like gender studies, communications, photography, public administration, etc. just to keep the money mill running




I mean no one made them pick those majors and this is coming from someone who has a relatively shitty major. At the end of the day, knowing people is more important.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/30/16 at 3:52 pm to
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Yeah that makes sense.


Especially when you look at UCSD doing over 1 billion in research, now that is eclipsing most everybody but Johns Hopkins.

Personally I would like to see better breakdowns by medical and non medical (bulk of this being military) especially in light of the poster above commenting on our lack (especially home grown) talent in fields like engineering. While I joke about the asians taking over Vandy, it is not like the reality is far off, or that it is limited to just Vandy.
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