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re: Unbiased Daily: I can already sense fear in Bama fans
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:51 am to WhiskeyPapa
Posted on 8/19/16 at 9:51 am to WhiskeyPapa
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Walt
UT '81
So, as a student, you were subjected to the tail end of Bama's 11 wins in a row against Tennessee.
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Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:05 am to goldennugget
Are we sure someone hasn't hijacked the OP's account? An "unbiased daily" thread without a single mention of A&M?
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:12 am to SquarePizzaRebel
We tend to overlook or downplay a lot of the quality football that is played on the West Coast. But there is a lot of good football out there and If Alabama or LSU had to play either Stanford, USC or Oregon year in and out, I think we would change our assessment of the play of many PAC 12 teams. They are not just finesse teams out there..especially Stanford and USC. They can line up and slug it out with the best of them
We tend to overlook them in the Southeast because the marquee games don't really get a lot of play because they play later and we tend to focus on teams in the Central and Eastern time zones....just my opinion on that.
We tend to overlook them in the Southeast because the marquee games don't really get a lot of play because they play later and we tend to focus on teams in the Central and Eastern time zones....just my opinion on that.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:19 am to KiwiHead
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We tend to overlook or downplay a lot of the quality football that is played on the West Coast. But there is a lot of good football out there and If Alabama or LSU had to play either Stanford, USC or Oregon year in and out, I think we would change our assessment of the play of many PAC 12 teams. They are not just finesse teams out there..especially Stanford and USC. They can line up and slug it out with the best of them We tend to overlook them in the Southeast because the marquee games don't really get a lot of play because they play later and we tend to focus on teams in the Central and Eastern time zones....just my opinion on that.
Nobody is overlooking the current Pac 12, which is a very good league. I am discussing the Pac 10 of 2000-2008, which was USC, Oregon, a few 8-9 win programs and trash. That doesn't discount USC, they went out and pounded everything, Pac 10/SEC/Big XII.
Again, read my original post (twice if you have to) to decipher my point and why I brought up the USC era Pac 10.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:26 am to goldennugget
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:28 am to SquarePizzaRebel
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I can tell you have a deep hatred for USCw. SEC 0-4 against USCw since 2000. And not just 0-4 but embarrassed. "Cadillac" Williams, Ronnie Brown, Felix Jones, and Darren McFadden couldn't put up a SINGLE touchdown against USC in any of those games. None of them went over 100 yards in any performance. Talk about how those teams were down all you want. Arkansas, SEC West Champions the year USC throttled them 50-14 in their own stadium. Auburn was pre-season ranked #6 or something with Cadillac and Ronnie Brown and they were shutout at home by USC. They had a winning season at 8-5. That was the year LSU couldn't gain the respect of the AP Poll, and USC was recognized as National Champions.
Edit: Haha, and to add...all 4 of those SEC backs were First Round picks, 3 of them Top 5 picks! Jones was Pick 22 in 1st round.
And not a single piece of this was related to Alabama in any way.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:52 am to skrayper
The irony is that in an obvious troll thread, Summer of George gives a rational and respectful response, and he's accused of "hating USCw". You can't win on the rant. LMAO.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:52 am to WhiskeyPapa
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sentience.
Awesome.
And to the OP, I'm so skurred.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:53 am to skrayper
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And not a single piece of this was related to Alabama in any way.
OP made no mention of USCw. Alabama fan brought them up in first reply! All I was doing was pointing out in the cases where USC played the SEC opponents, they smoked them and and shutdown their Top 5 draft picks. Same can be said for other OOC opponents. Vince Young was finally able to find an answer. The only teams that were ever able to beat USCw during their reign were Pac 10 schools with the exception of Texas. A ranked 11-2 Kansas St team from 2002 can make the claim as well. They beat them right when Pete took over.
I'd be curious to see some bowl records of Pac 10 teams vs SEC teams in the 2000-2005 era. I don't know those numbers right now, but I'd like to see them.
Keep in mind USCw has never scheduled an FCS school.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:57 am to CrimsonCrusade
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So, as a student, you were subjected to the tail end of Bama's 11 wins in a row against Tennessee.
Yeah,
I was actually on Okinawa and read in the Stars and Stripes about the 1983 game. Sweet!
Walt
UT '81
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Posted on 8/19/16 at 10:58 am to WhiskeyPapa
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Walt
UT '81
please stop doing this
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:00 am to WG_Dawg
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Walt
UT '81
please stop doing this
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quote: Walt UT '81 please stop doing this
I think not.
Walt
UT' 81
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:00 am to goldennugget
I can't tell if he's trying to troll Bama or LSU fans.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:02 am to goldennugget
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They are fearful of LSU. Bama fans will say they are not scared, and will downplay it all they want, but deep down they know that LSU is a major threat to their reign.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:06 am to WhiskeyPapa
another shitty alter, why can't yall just keep your original accounts from being banned?
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:17 am to SquarePizzaRebel
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OP made no mention of USCw. Alabama fan brought them up in first reply! All I was doing was pointing out in the cases where USC played the SEC opponents, they smoked them and and shutdown their Top 5 draft picks. Same can be said for other OOC opponents. Vince Young was finally able to find an answer. The only teams that were ever able to beat USCw during their reign were Pac 10 schools with the exception of Texas. A ranked 11-2 Kansas St team from 2002 can make the claim as well. They beat them right when Pete took over. I'd be curious to see some bowl records of Pac 10 teams vs SEC teams in the 2000-2005 era. I don't know those numbers right now, but I'd like to see them. Keep in mind USCw has never scheduled an FCS school.
Again - my point was pretty clear. If people here can't seem to figure it out, that's a them problem. If the response is to take it as some slight to USC or some sort of chest puff about Alabama, then you guys are bad at comprehension.
OP - Bama fears LSU becoming a threat
Response - LSU has always been a threat, as has entire league. League is hard, we are barely ahead. Example of opposite = USC dynasty in which they obliterated 2/3 of their league every season and had no threats.
Rant response - OMG YOU GUYS HATE USC
I mean, gracious
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:17 am to goldennugget
Bama fans are the most superstitious, nervous fans in existence.
I guess that just goes with being expected to win it all more often than any other team.
We really don't have anywhere to go but down, and nobody likes that.
I guess that just goes with being expected to win it all more often than any other team.
We really don't have anywhere to go but down, and nobody likes that.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
Let's put todays Pac-12 teams into talent context. If we averaged the last four years recruiting class rankings, here is what we find:
USC is about on recruiting talent level with Fla State, Georgia, Auburn.
UCLA is approximately in the same general category as Ole Miss, Tennessee, Clemson.
Oregon is about on level with South Carolina, Penn State.
Stanford, Washington, Az State are approximately talent equivalent to Arkansas, Michigan State, Mississippi State.
That puts the recruiting talent of these teams into context. Stanford is about on the talent level as Miss State. Let that sink in for a moment.
Now what happens with that recruiting talent in the next few years is a different story, and is why we play the game. The existence of a super skill player, Clemson's Watson for example, can shake up the talent equation...as can the absence of a key player - QB - OL, etc.
Still, on a recruiting talent level, the SEC is equal to the rest of the country combined.
By the way USC is not far behind the talent level of LSU, Ohio State... and will have the closest amalgamation of recruited talent to Alabama as anyone on their schedule except LSU. However, back in the day while USC was a top team, as was Texas, Oklahoma, Penn State, they did not face an SEC level schedule. And Alabama, Bear Bryant, Johnny Musso, Terry Davis (from Louisiana) et. al. handed them their hats in 1971.
USC is about on recruiting talent level with Fla State, Georgia, Auburn.
UCLA is approximately in the same general category as Ole Miss, Tennessee, Clemson.
Oregon is about on level with South Carolina, Penn State.
Stanford, Washington, Az State are approximately talent equivalent to Arkansas, Michigan State, Mississippi State.
That puts the recruiting talent of these teams into context. Stanford is about on the talent level as Miss State. Let that sink in for a moment.
Now what happens with that recruiting talent in the next few years is a different story, and is why we play the game. The existence of a super skill player, Clemson's Watson for example, can shake up the talent equation...as can the absence of a key player - QB - OL, etc.
Still, on a recruiting talent level, the SEC is equal to the rest of the country combined.
By the way USC is not far behind the talent level of LSU, Ohio State... and will have the closest amalgamation of recruited talent to Alabama as anyone on their schedule except LSU. However, back in the day while USC was a top team, as was Texas, Oklahoma, Penn State, they did not face an SEC level schedule. And Alabama, Bear Bryant, Johnny Musso, Terry Davis (from Louisiana) et. al. handed them their hats in 1971.
This post was edited on 8/19/16 at 11:44 am
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
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USC dynasty in which they obliterated 2/3 of their league every season and had no threats
Exaggerated. 2/3 certainly isn't accurate and they had threats. You ignored my point that the only teams who could beat USCw were teams within their own conference.
It certainly was a slight to USC - not that it was your primary intention. It was when I mentioned their performance against SEC schools during that era you started backpedaling and defending their successes. It's not hard to figure out the SEC strongly dislikes USCw...
2003 / 2004 seasons are big reasons. Split title in 2003 and Auburn's 2004 tantrum even though they did not have a convincing win over their Sugar Bowl opponent, Virginia Tech.
Posted on 8/19/16 at 11:49 am to SquarePizzaRebel
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Auburn's 2004 tantrum even though they did not have a convincing win over their Sugar Bowl opponent, Virginia Tech.
That VT team hung with USC earlier in the year and had a really good defense on top of beating two top ten teams in Miami and West Virginia.
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