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re: UGA fans: honest expectations for Jacob Eason?
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:34 am to YHCDawg
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:34 am to YHCDawg
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Stafford his freshman year, especially early in his freshman year, was not very good. You could see the talent, but he was not ready. 8-19, 171 yards and 3 ints against SC
to be fair, he was put in a pretty uncommon situation.
Game 1 against WKU the senior Joe T played the whole game up until midway through the 4th where stafford got some mopup duty. Pretty normal, so far so good. Week 2 we go into Columbia and on the first possession Joe T goes out of the game. Yeah stafford looked like shite but to his credit he was basically thrown directly into the fire and didn't really have time to mentally prep nor did he probably get many reps with the 1s that week.
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:36 am to YHCDawg
True about staffords slow start. My gut tells me chaney's O will be less dependent on the QB making 1000000 reads to be successful. CMR's O put a lot on the QB...a lot.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:39 am to WorkinDawg
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CMR's O put a lot on the QB...a lot.
But he was never shy about playing a young QB.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:43 am to WG_Dawg
I think Eason is probably ahead of where Stafford was just based on the number of snaps he gets in Elite practices, camps, etc as well as having a GDay under his belt. Still, my thoughts are that having Lambert or Ramsey (who I really think will start Game 1) start Game 1 is not necessarily a bad thing.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:02 am to DuncanIdaho
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But he was never shy about playing a young QB.
I don't guess I'd say he was shy about it but he rarely ever needed to.
-01 he had to pick between a RSFr and a career backup. Went with the RFr
-02-04 went with the experienced hand
-05 played a senior
-06 started a senior over the TFr. Fate would injure the senior in game 2 so kinda didnt' have a choice after that
-07-08 went with the experienced guy
-09 went with 5th year senior
-10 had to decide between a highly rated RSfr or a moderately rated TFr. Not a lot of options here.
-11-13 went with experience
-14 went with 5th year SR
-15 went with gradaute transfer
There really haven't been many times where he had to decide between an experienced guy or a promising youngster and went with the youngster.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:03 am to WG_Dawg
I guess I'm thinking about guys like Murray, Stafford & Green who seemingly played multiple years.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:05 am to DuncanIdaho
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I guess I'm thinking about guys like Murray, Stafford & Green who seemingly played multiple years.
good point, and you're correct. But as I said a lot of cases there wans't a choice.
01 it was DG or cory phillips.
10 it was RSr Murray or TFr mason.
06 it was senior JT3 or TFr stafford, and we went with Joe T until we had no other chioce and stafford had to get thrown in.
I will agree with you that in general (not just one poisition) Richt early on was probably more inclined to play upperclassmen, but he admitted many times that he changed his thinking after knowshon. He coneded many times that he shouldn't have redshirted him in 06, and from then on he was a little more fast and loose with playing young guys.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:45 am to WG_Dawg
JMO ... but the perception I get is that has Matt's arm and Aaron's work ethic. He'll struggle early but hit his stride sooner rather than later. Excited to watch this kid develop this year...
Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:49 am to dallasga6
that's another thing, I have to imagine he'll outwork stafford. I know in 08 stafford and knowshon had basically mailed it in but as a FR I can't really speak on how studious stafford was.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:20 am to BowlJackson
(Not a UGA fan) Probably a 25 TD 15 int type season.
Flashes of greatness but also plenty of freshman mistakes. I still think UGA should play him early and often because they have no chance at making the playoff with Lambert, but Eason with lots of early experience will be better for it. Likely increasing the chances of UGA making the playoff in years to come.
Flashes of greatness but also plenty of freshman mistakes. I still think UGA should play him early and often because they have no chance at making the playoff with Lambert, but Eason with lots of early experience will be better for it. Likely increasing the chances of UGA making the playoff in years to come.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:30 am to rockytop627
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Probably a 25 TD 15 int type season.
If those were indeed the numbers, based on something that Kirby shared earlier this offseason, one would think this should be sufficient to start a good chunk of games unless we see pretty dramatic improvement from Greyson Lambert as well.
He shared that at Alabama, they calculated the impact of a turnover to be about -4.5 points each.
GL in 2015 - 12 TD/ 2 INT - 12*7 - 2*4.5= 75
RT's Projected Eason 2016 - 25*7 - 15*4.5 = 107.5
Even if Greyson were to improve his TD numbers by let's say 50%, there were a ton of ducks he threw out there last year that could just as easily have been picked off so would imagine an 18/5 season from him as "big improvement". Netting me a 103.5 expected value... or also less than Eason's projection there.
I know there is a lot more to it than just pure mathematics, but it's difficult to see any reason to start Lambert beyond the first game unless there is either tremendous growth from him or Eason is looking like he's not ready for full speed.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:44 am to WG_Dawg
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WG_Dawg
Good response.
Yeah...i think he will be a damn good QB but really any TF QB will have their share of mishaps starting out. How's your depth at OL just incase any injuries occur there?
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 10:57 am to SpartyGator
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How's your depth at OL just incase any injuries occur there?
I think the depth is decent but I worry about specific starting positions, if that makes sense. Like, I think we have 8-9 guys that I would be reasonably comfortable with playing, but I'm not sure we have anyone who I'm comfortable with playing LT.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 11:56 am to Crowknowsbest
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specific starting positions
Agreed. Depth along the 3 middle positions should be manageable. Depth at tackle is just not there. Would require moving guys that are great guards to the outside (where they are not as strong) and then plugging in the depth in the middle. Would not feel good about that, so really need Catalina to come in and anchor one of the spots (LT obviously being preferable if he's up to it).
Posted on 6/14/16 at 12:12 pm to dallasga6
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but the perception I get is that has Matt's arm and Aaron's work ethic.
If that's the case he may finally get y'all over that NC hump.
Looking back, now that he's gone I can say I always admired Murray's competitiveness. That little shite could get his dick knocked in the dirt over and over and just get up angrier and more ready to go than before. And on top of that and his work ethic, he had great instincts. The 2013 game y'all were all but out of it before he put y'all on his back and willed y'all back into the game in the 4th.
Stafford on the other hand, while you can't question his talent as a #1 overall draft pick and being one of the best QBs in the NFL... He always came across as cocky and arrogant. Obviously I don't know him personally, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out he's a douche.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 1:33 pm to BowlJackson
From the spring game the way he reads the field is unbelievable.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 2:56 pm to rockytop627
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Probably a 25 TD 15 int type season.
Could make him the top qb in the east and 2nd best in sec.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 3:02 pm to BowlJackson
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The 2013 game y'all were all but out of it before he put y'all on his back and willed y'all back into the game in the 4th.
ignoring the totally obvious reasons, one thing I hate most about losing that game was that his performance will be forgotten in history. That was truly one of the best and most historic games a UGA player has ever had, it was practically storybook. Hell even after au's go ahead score, he drove us right back down in scoring position. One of the greatest perforamnces I've ever seen.
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Stafford on the other hand, while you can't question his talent as a #1 overall draft pick and being one of the best QBs in the NFL... He always came across as cocky and arrogant. Obviously I don't know him personally, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out he's a douche.
I think he had the attitude that he was the best QB recruit we've had, he had all the chicks within a week on campus, and basically wanted to live the rockstar lifestyle like he was matt leinart or something. I'll never forget the Thursday before the 08 bama game him and knowshon were both falling down drunk at Arch bar. This is frickin 48 hours before one of the biggest games we've played in a while. I doubt we see that from eason, but ya never know.
Posted on 6/14/16 at 3:04 pm to BowlJackson
If he's anything like his dad I would be scared. I was at the 82 Liberty bowl when he passed for like 400 yds. I've said since I've been going to games I've seen 5 QB's in person that I never thought we could stop. I know most here havent ever heard of Tony or dont even know Jacob's dad was a great Illini QB and took the Pats to the Super Bowl in 85. He's one of the 5 I just threw my hands up and said we cant stop him. The 5.
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 3:04 pm to WG_Dawg
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That was truly one of the best and most historic games a UGA player has ever had
He completely picked us apart.
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