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re: Tunsil says no the first time and yes the second time
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:07 pm to HailFreezusOver
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:07 pm to HailFreezusOver
They don't have subpoena power but they are also not constrained to beyond a reasonable doubt type of decision. And as far as altering photos there are websites you can go to for free and upload pictures to check and see if they've been photoshopped, so i'm willing to bet ghe NCAA has access to at least some software that's a little bit stronger than something your necktard self could access.
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Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:07 pm to HoustonRebel
One this is for sure, at no time did he ever say no to the money.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:09 pm to HoustonRebel
Just low rent cheating runts with a fake religious coach at the helm.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:10 pm to Crow Pie
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Tunsil says no the first time and yes the second time
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They dont have subpoena power
Well then, since you will not be able to prove it didnt happen ...then we will have to go with the transcripts of what he actually said on national tv.
And once again, no, no they can't. As ESPN has said numerous times in the past few days, the NCAA can't use public statements. They can only use statements directly made to them.
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So, yeah.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:13 pm to HailFreezusOver
"In addition to interviews, enforcement representatives obtain significant supporting documentation, such as recruiting logs, phone records, compliance files, academic records, e-mails, bank statements and credit card receipts."
NCAA Enforcement Process
NCAA Enforcement Process
This post was edited on 4/30/16 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:15 pm to Spinthemusic
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:16 pm to HoustonRebel
Yall will get what's coming to you. Stop being a bitch about the consequences. You made your bed now you have to sleep in it. Bottom line is the true frat boy, bitch made aspects of ole miss fans are coming out now that shite is hitting the fan. Yall are what we knew yall were.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:21 pm to Restomod
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You realize they can subpoena phone text messages right
We realize this. What you don't realize is that iMessages do NOT show up on phone records.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:22 pm to Spinthemusic
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"In addition to interviews, enforcement representatives obtain significant supporting documentation, such as recruiting logs, phone records, compliance files, academic records, e-mails, bank statements and credit card receipts."
Cool story.
now find somewhere that says iMessages show up on phone records.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:24 pm to pankReb
Well - this actual instance might be able to be defended, and might yield nothing - but have to guess it will be like the irs, once flagged they will be all over ole miss.
All jokes and ole miss hatred aside- we should all be nervous being fans of sec schools. Let's say they hammer ole miss, great, who is next? You bet your arse it will be an SEC school.
All jokes and ole miss hatred aside- we should all be nervous being fans of sec schools. Let's say they hammer ole miss, great, who is next? You bet your arse it will be an SEC school.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 9:28 pm to Spinthemusic
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"In addition to interviews, enforcement representatives obtain significant supporting documentation, such as recruiting logs, phone records, compliance files, academic records, e-mails, bank statements and credit card receipts."
NCAA Enforcement Process
Did you manage to read the section in large blue letters that says:
"Does the NCAA have subpoena power?"
And then says:
"No. The NCAA constitution obligates schools to cooperate fully during investigations, but the lack of subpoena power normally associated with law enforcement agencies can present investigative challenges.
Individuals required to cooperate: Student-athletes, prospective student-athletes, coaches, athletics department staff, institutional personnel.
Individuals not required to cooperate: Parents, family and friends, high school coaches, some summer coaches, representatives of the institution’s athletics interests, such as boosters."
Someone mentioned subpoenas here. They can't do that. They can only get all of those docs and stuff from people over whom they have jurisdiction over.
Current players? Yes. Current staff? Yes. Past staff still working at NCAA institution? Yes.
Tunsil? No. They can't even use his statement from his presser.
I don't really have a dog in this hunt, really, but it isn't like what the NCAA can and can't do hasn't been discussed ad nauseam in the past few days.
For Ole Miss to get busted, they are going to have to find a smoking gun a current player or someone on staff has - one they somehow missed the first time around.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 10:06 pm to HailFreezusOver
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No they can't. This isnt the fed. That's like saying the humane society, NPR, aarp, Aclu can subpoena phone records Is an association with a governing body. They dont have subpoena power
No, they don't have subpoena power, but they can require the coaches to give a log of texts from their provider and check the time stamps. If the coaches refuse, to the NCAA, it would be an admittance of guilt.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 10:10 pm to AshLSU
Miller obviously just lost his phone though
Posted on 4/30/16 at 10:10 pm to AshLSU
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No, they don't have subpoena power, but they can require the coaches to give a log of texts from their provider and check the time stamps. If the coaches refuse, to the NCAA, it would be an admittance of guilt.
iMessage conversations do not show up on phone records. The provider will not have access to the content of the conversation.
Google could really be your friend. Please...try it. Really easy to find. The web address is the name, then a dot, and then the word "com" after it. That website really helps people out when trying to research subject matter.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 10:28 pm to pankReb
What I think a lot of yall are failing to realize is that the NCAA doesn't need subpoena power. The NCAA puts a LOT of stock in cooperation by the school. When penalty time comes, they look back at how well the school and other involved parties cooperated with the investigation. The bottom line is the NCAA can issue the most severe punishment they want to administer and cooperation plays a big part.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 11:30 pm to HoustonRebel
It was clear the second time.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 11:43 pm to HoustonRebel
Fanbases of busted schools are always delusional
Posted on 5/1/16 at 12:23 am to pankReb
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Google could really be your friend. Please...try it. Really easy to find. The web address is the name, then a dot, and then the word "com" after it. That website really helps people out when trying to research subject matter.
You are still an idiot. I worked for one of the major carriers and I can assure you that it does show up. It still counts as a data transaction across the network. It is very easily traceable. I use to have to sift through thousand of lines of it a day.
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:37 am to ImayGoLesMiles
Posted on 5/1/16 at 1:53 am to HoustonRebel
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That's a screen shot of a phone... Can be altered to say anything.
They will have to get the coaches phone and Tunsils phone to confirm this...
Those phone are broke in a thousand pieces and at the botton of Sardis Lake by now...
Records may show communication between them but not the content... We still skate..
Is this what they consider the denial stage?
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