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re: Tre Mason is better than McFadden and Herschel

Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:33 pm to
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:33 pm to
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System RB

Sucks for y'all then,
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:36 pm to
Well, Tre Mason did put up great numbers, which put him in a league with Darren McFadden and Herschel Walker...statistically. It was one of the best seasons a running back has ever had in the SEC and that is definitely something to brag about.

Do I think he is as good as them when it comes to being a football player? No, but he might be able to produce an NFL career similar to or better than the aforementioned players. He also would have broken all of the Auburn rushing records had he returned for his Senior season, but I can't blame him for going PRO when the NFL is like it is when it comes to running backs.
Posted by notabertfan
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:36 pm to
He can't hold eithers jock strap. Dmac did that while splitting carries with a couple of names you might have heard, Jones and Hillis.
He is a good back but Dmac is one of the bast SEC backs of all time.
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:43 pm to
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He's probably just taking the hype put together by his agent for NFL teams and sharing it.


That and potentially trolling dawgies and piggies.
Posted by LSU82BILL
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:47 pm to
Tre be trippin'. His stats are for a 14 game season. Herschel had 75 more yards in only 11 games. Each player played 3 years of college football and Herschel still has 2,000 more total rushing yards. The word "beast" is used on this site all to freely - even talking about HS recruits who have never played a down of college football so to call Herschel Walker a "beast" would be an insult. For my money, he is simply the best running back in the history of college football and the only other player in the conversation is Ricky Williams. Bo Jackson would be too if he didn't split carries with a loaded backfield at Auburn.

Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:55 pm to
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He can't hold eithers jock strap
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:56 pm to
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Dmac did that while splitting carries with a couple of names you might have heard, Jones and Hillis.
Tre Mason didn't share the carries with Cam Artis-Payne, Nick Marshall, Corey Grant, or anybody else?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:56 pm to
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Tre Mason didn't share the carries with Cam Artis-Payne, Nick Marshall, Corey Grant, or anybody else?




As pointed out earlier, tre shared it far more than dmac.
Posted by llfshoals
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:57 pm to
Funny stuff.

At 50 Herschel might still be better than him.
Posted by BuddyLAM
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:57 pm to
One of those is not like the other


Heisman baby
Posted by dhuck20
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:01 pm to
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I've seen players like Rudi Johnson, Cadillac and Ronnie, Brandon Jacobs, Kenny Irons, Ben Tate, and Michael Dyer all tote the rock in orange and blue, and I wouldn't trade Tre Mason for any of them.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 6:03 pm
Posted by bdv1974
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:02 pm to
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He was last year. Not sure how you can argue against the #'s


Posted by AUFANATL
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:04 pm to
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Mason didn't have another first rounder he shared the backfield with


True, but AU rushing attack was just as much of a committee, just more diverse (option QB, bruiser RB and sweep speedster RB to complement Mason's traditional role). Total team rushing yards and YPC demonstrate this.

To be fair to Hershel, he was a one man wrecking crew. UGA's entire offense back then was Hershel left and Hershel right. Every swinging d--k knew what was coming and he still plowed up those yards. Just an absolute freak of nature. Ditto for Bo.
Posted by dhuck20
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:05 pm to
Rules of this thread:

If you take your lips off Mason's cock you get a downvote.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:14 pm to
The bottom line that separates the SEC’s two leading rushers is Bo Jackson was the more effective runner - he averaged more than a yard more per carry than Herschel. Jackson, the SEC's career leader in yards per rush (minimum 400 rushes), averaged 6.6 yards per carry as he rushed for 4,303 yards on 650 attempts during his Auburn career (1982-85). Meanwhile, Walker, who averaged more than a yard less per attempt than Jackson, netted a distant 5.3 yards per carry during his Georgia career (1980-82). Furthermore, Walker averaged 5.9 yards per rush during his most effective season, while Jackson tallied 6.5 yards per carry as a freshman, 7.7 yards per rush as a sophomore, 5.5 yards per tote during his injury-plagued junior season and 6.4 yards per run as a senior. The later figure (6.4) established an SEC single-season record for yards per rush (minimum 200 rushes). It's safe to assume that Jackson would own virtually every SEC rushing record had he totaled as many carries as Walker. Jackson had only 650 career rushing attempts, while Walker had 994. Averages indicate that if Jackson had tallied 994 carries (Walker’s career total), he would have rushed for 6,560 yards, which easily would have surpassed Walker’s record mark of 5,259 yards. As for the SEC single-season rushing yardage record, if Jackson had equaled Walker’s record mark of 385 attempts, his 1985 total (1,786 yards on 278 carries) would have produced 2,464 yards – a figure that annihilates Walker’s record tally of 1,891 yards (on 385 carries). Even if Jackson averaged just 4.0 yards per carry (far below his actual average) in the rushing attempt differential between the two players, Jackson still would have amassed 5,679 career yards as well as 2,214 yards in 1985 – both marks that would have topped Walker’s records. Jackson also averaged a touchdown per every 15 carries, while Walker scored once every 20 rushing attempts. Once again, if Jackson had as many carries as Walker, he would have smashed Walker’s SEC career touchdown rushing record of 49. Instead of his total of 43 touchdowns, averages indicate Jackson would have netted 66 career rushing touchdowns. Jackson also would have accumulated approximately 25 rushing touchdowns in 1985 (when he registered 17), a total that would have topped Walker’s single-season record of 18 when he averaged one score per 21 attempts in 1981. As for their breakway capabilities, Jackson had an 80-yard touchdown run (against Florida in 1983) and two 76-yard scoring jaunts (vs. Georgia Tech and SW Louisiana in 1985), while Walker had just one 76-yard touchdown run – the longest of his career. Although it’s hard to comprehend the enormous totals Jackson would have posted had he matched Walker’s average of 331 carries per season, it’s even scarier to imagine how Jackson would have fared against the defenses that Walker faced. During his regular-season career, which spanned 33 games, Walker faced a porous opposition that had a combined record of just 161-198-4. As for Jackson, Auburn’s opponents during his regular-season career (38 games) were a combined 248-158-14. Walker also padded his numbers against perennial SEC lightweights Vanderbilt, Ole Miss and Kentucky, whom the ‘Dawgs annually faced. Against that trio of SEC bottom feeders, Walker gained 1,513 yards, which was almost a third of his career rushing yardage. Meanwhile, Jackson never had the luxury of facing Vanderbilt, and in his only game against Ole Miss he gained 240 yards on 38 carries. Regarding their speed, Jackson was faster in the 40-yard dash (Jackson was timed between 4.12 and 4.22, while Walker was clocked at 4.30).
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:15 pm to
Give us this day, our daily wall of text.
Posted by Killean
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:27 pm to
When you have the big wall of "best running backs in SEC history"


You start with Herschel, then you put Bo, then you put Dmac.


Then you start arguing.


However Tre Mason won't make the top 5 and will struggle to fit in the top 10 over people who had actual careers.



Only Auburn people see it differently and that's because they're dumb.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:34 pm to
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Only Auburn people see it differently and that's because they're dumb.
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:35 pm to
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You start with Bo, then you put Herschel, then you put Dmac.

I agree
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