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re: Top Overall SEC Teams for 2014
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:02 pm to wadewilson
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:02 pm to wadewilson
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There's something about Ole Miss here that makes them incapable of impartially judging anything related to LSU.
I do envy LSU. In fact, the fans are the only thing I don't like about LSU. Best stadium, best band, best atmosphere, most fun tailgate, great unis. Trust me I can judge LSU just fine. LSU fans or for that matter, anyone judging themselves is the opinion you cannot trust. It's called bias. When y'all are on your board you talk shite about Miles, but when Ole Piss does y'all come to his defense. Who is taken this personally?
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:06 pm to Whereisomaha
I don't talk shite about Miles. Sure, there are better head coaches in the country, but you could do a lot worse than him. When you start talking about our 2 coordinators and the position coaches we have, I don't think there are very many staffs in the entire country that compare, much less SEC.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:06 pm to JayDeerTay84
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So your coaches will have next to no effect on the development of these kids?
Never said that. But they would be first rounders at any school. Development is a part of coaching, but it's not a fair one if you compare nfl players because of huge gaps in recruiting. How a coach uses it's talent and motivates it is how you measure his ability to coach. Do y'all not agree with that?
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:06 pm to Whereisomaha
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Trust me I can judge LSU just fine.
Obviously not. You have ole miss and LSU tied for 7th because OM "competed with LSU with less talent", yet you have LSU ranked behind AU, USCe, and aTm. LSU has won 6 of 7 over auburn, the last 3 over USCe, and absolutely dismantled aTm in the last 3 games. So please try to explain how any of this is logical, at all.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:15 pm to RB10
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Obviously not. You have ole miss and LSU tied for 7th because OM "competed with LSU with less talent", yet you have LSU ranked behind AU, USCe, and aTm. LSU has won 6 of 7 over auburn, the last 3 over USCe, and absolutely dismantled aTm in the last 3 games. So please try to explain you're reasoning.
Has Les every over achieved like Gus did last year?
Do you think if Spurrier was your coach that y'all would have won more?
You have an argument with A&M. I personally think that Sumlim has to have a NFL QB to win. I just did not think it was fair to rank him lower after what he's accomplished in two years. I truly believe that they will go 6-6 this year. I was trying to be objective and look at everyone's body of work. Miles has shite the bed. Sumlin has not lost A&M games. Like I said you have an argument here. I also think you have an argument with UGA. If LSU were in the east y'all would have accomplished more and I believe that. But with Pruitt being added I put them ahead.
Maybe it's because he coached terrible games in 08,09, 10, 12, and 13, against OM, and maybe that's not fair to compare him mostly against what he's done against us, but those are the games I've seen.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:17 pm to Whereisomaha
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Maybe it's because he coached terrible games in 08,09, 10, 12, and 13, against OM, and maybe that's not fair to compare him mostly against what he's done against us, but those are the games I've seen.
He also coaches terribly against Arky for some reason, but guess what. He still has more SEC titles in the last 3 years than both of those teams have combined in the last 25.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:21 pm to RB10
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He also coaches terribly against Arky for some reason, but guess what. He still has more SEC titles in the last 3 years than both of those teams have combined in the last 25.
Yeah... Because he has more talent. Don't take it personally. Gus got a sec title with less talent. Spurrier is better. Saban is better. UGA and A&M are you arguments.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:25 pm to Whereisomaha
So you're going to penalize Miles for a 2 or 3 shitty games he's coached in the last 8 years, but not Gus and Sumlin for getting the dog shite beat out of them by Miles teams, and Gus for coaching just as many shitty games as Miles?
Yeah, you're impartial.
Yeah, you're impartial.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:28 pm to Whereisomaha
In complete honestly I looked at Miles and Chavis when I made the ranking, not thinking about Cam. I do agree y'all are low but not for the majority of reasons y'all seem to give. I would correct it to have y'all tied with UGA if I didn't feel like y'all pressured me into it. Even if I did, you would still be 4th, though not tied with the runts of ole piss as y'all so cleverly call us.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:30 pm to wadewilson
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So you're going to penalize Miles for a 2 or 3 shitty games he's coached in the last 8 years, but not Gus and Sumlin for getting the dog shite beat out of them by Miles teams, and Gus for coaching just as many shitty games as Miles? Yeah, you're impartial.
Like I said, you have an argument with Sumlin. His body of work hasn't lost him games, but it's smaller. Gus did something last year that Miles hasn't, overachieved, and y'all beat them at home in a monsoon in his first year when you had more talent. As I've said before, I'm judging Miles on what I've seen, which is mostly OM games. I can't judge him on what I haven't
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:32 pm to Whereisomaha
So why is A&M so high with the worst D in the league?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:32 pm to Whereisomaha
Chavis and Cameron are among the best coordinators in the conference, and Wilson, Haley, Henrey, and Raymond continue to church out NFL-quality players every single year. Grimes is brand new to the staff as well, and he's already had a positive impact on recruiting and coaching.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:33 pm to JayDeerTay84
I tried to be objective with them because I personally do not think Sumlin is that great, but what he's done in two years has been. He hired Nutt's DL coach for goodness sake. As I've said plenty of times now, y'all have an argument with Sumlin, just rated him higher because he hasn't lost them games while miles has
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:36 pm to Whereisomaha
Is Bama the only team in the country with 2 ex-NFL head coaches on the staff? Gotta be..
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:36 pm to Whereisomaha
But he can't beat Miles.
LOL who is biased here?
LOL who is biased here?
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:37 pm to Whereisomaha
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Gus did something last year that Miles hasn't, overachieved,
This is false. Miles most definitely over-achieved in 2005 and 2010.
In 2005, our second game of the season was a Monday night game in the end of September, the weekend hurricane Rita struck. We had two Cat5 hurricanes hit Louisiana in a month, played 11 weeks with no bye, and still had an 11-2 season. The 2005 recruiting class was ranked 22nd.
In 2010, our offense was one-dimensional, and roughly 40% of that single dimension was Stevan Ridley. We still had a good season.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:39 pm to JuiceTerry
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Is Bama the only team in the country with 2 ex-NFL head coaches on the staff? Gotta be..
Judging by their professional records, they'll be shite coaches no matter what they do and where they are.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:39 pm to JayDeerTay84
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But he can't beat Miles. LOL who is biased here?
Id say the LSU fan complaining about LSU
The coaching rankings have been adjusted since I never considered Cam. It changed nothing in the total team rankings.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:40 pm to wadewilson
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Judging by their professional records, they'll be shite coaches no matter what they do and where they are.
Yep. You are a sensible fan base
Posted on 6/19/14 at 4:42 pm to Whereisomaha
That's what we were told about Cam Cameron.
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