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re: Top Overall SEC Teams for 2014

Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:17 pm to
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You have more talent than everyone else but bama


do you think these kids are ready for the NFL straight out of high school?

...and you're basing it on one loss.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 3:29 pm
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:17 pm to
raw talent =/= coaching
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:24 pm to
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So why are Ole Miss Players who are "coached" better not drafted?

I rated our coaching staffs the same. NFL draft has a hell of a lot more to do with pure talent and size/speed ratio than it does with anything coaches can change. How you perform against other talent shows how good those coaches are. It's not just development, but strategy and motivation. Like I said before, this thread was created to show the possible effect of coaching staff's ability to win games with the talent they have. Also our coaching staff has been here two years, Tunsil will go before any of your OL, Treadwell will go before any of your WR, and RN will go before any of your DT's in the 2016 draft. Does that mean our WR, OL, and DL coaching is better? No. It means those guys are elite talents and the best at their position.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 3:27 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:26 pm to
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you just proved my point. You have more talent than everyone else but bama yet still lose to teams with less like"Ole Piss". That's why your coaching staff is rated lower. That ranking isn't by coaches ability to recruit, but to coach. Damn boy


Actually, LSU is averaging like, 8th nationally in recruiting rankings over the past few years, so several SEC schools have better recruiting classes year-in year-out.

And that was before Cameron came on campus.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:28 pm to
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How you perform against other talent shows how good those coaches are. It's not just development, but strategy and motivation.


what team in the SEC has more wins or SEC championships than LSU since Miles showed up in 2005?
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:29 pm to
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Actually, LSU is averaging like, 8th nationally in recruiting rankings over the past few years, so several SEC schools have better recruiting classes year-in year-out.

And the only teams that maybe out recruited you in the sec would have been Florida and AU. Your staff was better than Chiziks and now better than Boom's. As I have stated in the OP
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:30 pm to
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what team in the SEC has more wins or SEC championships than LSU since Miles showed up in 2005?

What sec staff is the same since then?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:30 pm to
And contrary to OP's shitty opinion, we haven't been playing with superior talent. As every dickhead on SECR likes to remind us, LSU isn't the only team that recruits Louisiana. Other teams hire coaches to recruit Louisiana specifically.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:32 pm to
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What sec staff is the same since then?


none...including LSUs


now answer my question
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:34 pm to
Yeah, we got a 4* DT out of there that y'all didn't want unless he played FB. What does that have to do with anything? Do y'all not put out more NFL talent than everyone else? Then why are you losing to Ole Piss and not at Bama's level? Oh yeah... It's your coaching staff
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 3:35 pm
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:37 pm to
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I rated our coaching staffs the same. NFL draft has a hell of a lot more to do with pure talent and size/speed ratio than it does with anything coaches can change. How you perform against other talent shows how good those coaches are. It's not just development, but strategy and motivation. Like I said before, this thread was created to show the possible effect of coaching staff's ability to win games with the talent they have.




So on the field performance doesn't matter??? Ah, now I know why Ole Miss players are over looked. ......

quote:

Also our coaching staff has been here two years, Tunsil will go before any of your OL, Treadwell will go before any of your WR, and RN will go before any of your DT's in the 2016 draft. Does that mean our WR, OL, and DL coaching is better? No. It means those guys are elite talents and the best at their position.


I thought you said LSU had more talent?


Which is it????


Please be consistent...
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:38 pm to
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now answer my question

Your question has nothing to do with this thread. Your staff was better than Auburn's before Gus', now it's not. Your staff was better than USC's before Spurrier, now it's not. Your staff was better than States and OM before Muffin and Freeze, now they are comparable. Your staff wasn't as good as Florida's with Urban, now it's better.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:38 pm to
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Yeah, we got a 4* DT out of there that y'all didn't want unless he played FB. What does that have to do with anything? Do y'all not put out more NFL talent than everyone else? Then why are you losing to Ole Piss and not at Bama's level? Oh yeah... It's your coaching staff


You judge a coaching staff by 1 game?

And you want us to take you seriously?


Really?


Really?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:38 pm to
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And the only teams that maybe out recruited you in the sec would have been Florida and AU. Your staff was better than Chiziks and now better than Boom's. As I have stated in the OP


And Alabama.

Hell, even Ole Miss pulled a better class one year.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Your staff was better than Auburn's before Gus', now it's not.


but we just beat Auburn. i mean...this is all based on one game right?


quote:

Your staff was better than USC's before Spurrier, now it's not.


you're dumb as frick
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 3:45 pm
Posted by polydorr
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

1. USC
2t. AU
2t. Bama
4. UGA
5. Mizzo
6. A&M
7t. Arky
7t. LSU
7t. MSU
7t. OM
11t. UF
11t. UT
13. UK
14. Vandy


You should leave your opinion off the internet
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:40 pm to
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Oh yeah... It's your coaching staff


The same coaching staff that puts more talent into the NFL than any other team in the conference.

You don't know what you're talking about. You are in no way qualified to judge LSU's staff.
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

I thought you said LSU had more talent?

Yep. Me saying that we have three players better in 2016 draft contradicts that our entire team talent the last two years has been less than yours. How dumb are you?
Posted by Whereisomaha
Member since Feb 2010
17939 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

The same coaching staff that puts more talent into the NFL than any other team in the conference. You don't know what you're talking about. You are in no way qualified to judge LSU's staff.

Y'all keep proving my point. If y'all put out more nfl talent then why aren't you the premier team in the conference? Your coaching staff is why
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 3:42 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36506 posts
Posted on 6/19/14 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

1. USC
2t. AU
2t. Bama
4. UGA
5. Mizzo
6. A&M
7t. Arky
7t. LSU
7t. MSU
7t. OM
11t. UF
11t. UT
13. UK
14. Vandy


quote:

You should leave your opinion off the internet


OP is too stupid to know what a good coaching staff is.
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