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re: To people who have a negative view of JFF's "character"

Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:25 am to
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:25 am to
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The Heisman is nothing more than a beauty contest.

Yeah, I was gonna say...the Heisman IS media bullshite.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15586 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:26 am to
Manziel is a douchebag a-hole who is a great athlete. What some other qb does has nothing to do with him.
Posted by sharkenleo
Space Coast
Member since Nov 2013
296 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:26 am to
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We kinda already beat this topic into the ground.


This news came out yesterday.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:29 am to
In the most simple terms, just because one person is a piece of crap doesn't mean another person isn't a piece of crap.

Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:29 am to
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This news came out yesterday.

It's the Rant. Yesterday is ancient history.
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:30 am to
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The Heisman is nothing more than a beauty contest.



If it was a beauty contest, that ugly fricker Manziel wouldn't have won it.

It's a media whore contest.
Posted by sharkenleo
Space Coast
Member since Nov 2013
296 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:31 am to
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It's a media whore contest.


Then JFF would've been really fricked since he didn't speak to the media all season.
Posted by AU03ALUM
Laguna Beach, CA
Member since Jul 2011
2299 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:31 am to
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It's the Rant. Yesterday is ancient history.



I was once ridiculed by a noob poster for "digging up" an hour old thread?
Posted by Broken Coyote
Seated. Facing forward
Member since Dec 2010
3050 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:31 am to
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Yeah, that's what I said.


JFF is butt ugly, loves to party and is one of the best freestyle QBs to play the game. That is my opinion on him and about what most folks say.

Yet your OP question comes across as strange and does seem like you hope Winston is guilty so people will like johnny more. Its a terrible OP.
Posted by sharkenleo
Space Coast
Member since Nov 2013
296 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:36 am to
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Yet your OP question comes across as strange and does seem like you hope Winston is guilty so people will like johnny more. Its a terrible OP.


Edited for clarification. Do not hope he's guilty, and hope Johnny wins the Heisman for legitimate reasons and not for media-driven reasons.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:40 am to
I think they should just give it to Bryce Petty. He's a really nice guy, who eats his vegetables and helps old ladies across the street. That's what this award is about anyway. That's why JFF would win if Winston is a rapist, because JFF is a good boy compared to Winston, but Petty? He's a good Baylor Baptist boy who is still a virgin. He deserves it more than ANYONE ELSE!!!
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:40 am to
If Winston raped a bus full of teenage girls who were about to become nuns, Johnny Manziel would be exactly 100% the douchebag that he is today.

Next question.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140102 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:42 am to
No. Happy?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:45 am to
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If Winston raped a bus full of teenage girls who were about to become nuns, Johnny Manziel would be exactly 100% the douchebag that he is today.

That's a good way of putting it.


If Winston raped said bus-full, would he still have the performance he had this season? If he publicly executed 20 cute puppies on national TV, would he still be the "outstanding" player of college football?

I hate the Heisman because the voters are stupid and make decisions based on emotion rather than facts. If a player doesn't love Jesus, he somehow is not the most outstanding player.

Okay. Rant over.

Winston will win. This rape thing will blow over. It's his to lose, but NOT JFF's to win. That ship sailed when he lost to Bama IMO.
Posted by sharkenleo
Space Coast
Member since Nov 2013
296 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 11:54 am to
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Winston will win. This rape thing will blow over. It's his to lose, but NOT JFF's to win. That ship sailed when he lost to Bama IMO.



With that performance? No way. If anything it would be after Auburn, but even then he still has a shot with two road games against ranked teams.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 12:01 pm to
The Heisman has become "which player are we most enamored with at the point the vote is taken?" You almost have to peak at just the right time so they won't get bored with you and start looking for flaws.

When they gave the Heisman to Woodson over Peyton Manning, I lost all interest in the Heisman race.

Then I laughed at Tennessee, because frick them.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 12:05 pm to
why would what another player does change my view of jff beng a shite head? the fact that he looks up to drake and thinks drake is a friend puts him pretty low on the type of people id think are ok people.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15300 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 12:08 pm to
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you were a Heisman voter who was voting for Winston, do you change your vote to Johnny or look at another candidate altogether?



I would have voted for JFF no matter what because he is the most exciting player in CF. Not only do I not have a problem with his party boy ways, I actually love them and am enamored (does that word work here?) by his unapologetic way of being a crazy college kid. However the voting members of the Heisman, and in particular the media and old timers, has greatly frowned upon this which is why I have put the probability of him winning at 5%. In my eyes the only 3 candidates are McCarron, Petty, and Winston. With Winstion slightly edging out AJ at the moment.

But with every win AJ's command as not only a passing QB, which he has done really well at the past year and a half, and a general that calls a great game motivating and lining up his players, making audibles ect will ultimately be enough to push him over the top of a freshman QB, if AJ and Bama win out.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 12:09 pm to
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With that performance? No way. If anything it would be after Auburn, but even then he still has a shot with two road games against ranked teams.

I said earlier that after the summer of douchbaggery, JFF would have to be damn near perfect to win it again. The Bama game was all most voters needed.

Right or wrong, JFF is not going to win another Heisman. I'll come back on here and eat my crow with a shite-eatin grin on my face if he does, but he won't.

I do believe that JFF is the most outstanding player this year too. I think he should win, based on his performance alone, which is fricking the purpose of the Got Damn award. Nobody has even come close to performing like JFF this year. It's tragic that he won't win another and really underscores the flaw and pile of bullshite it has become.
Posted by Foolish cock
South Cak
Member since Dec 2012
2529 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 12:12 pm to
Are you asking if a ladies man playboy numbskull is cooler that a rapist? I say yes.... If it is true of course


Edit- JFF is a baller.
This post was edited on 11/15/13 at 12:14 pm
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