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re: To All Spurrier Haters
Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:00 am to mikeboss550
Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:00 am to mikeboss550
I don't care how he retired; it's his business. IMO he was a very good coach, a great quote but also IMO he acted like a douche on the sidelines (as does Jim Harbaugh).
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:01 am to mikeboss550
Steve Spurrier was a legendary football coach. His string of SEC championships was astounding. I respect him immensely as a coach.
As a person, I don't care for him. It isn't a moral judgement, it's a matter of taste. I don't like people to show such disrespect to other teams and coaches, and I don't like people to be as cocky as he is. The way he left SC this year is not the way someone with class handles a situation.
But every great coach has defects. Every one of them.
(And to be honest, I absolutely love Nick Saban only as the Alabama head coach. If I were a reporter who got blasted by him in one of those press conferences, I would seriously beat the shite out of the man.)
As a person, I don't care for him. It isn't a moral judgement, it's a matter of taste. I don't like people to show such disrespect to other teams and coaches, and I don't like people to be as cocky as he is. The way he left SC this year is not the way someone with class handles a situation.
But every great coach has defects. Every one of them.
(And to be honest, I absolutely love Nick Saban only as the Alabama head coach. If I were a reporter who got blasted by him in one of those press conferences, I would seriously beat the shite out of the man.)
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 7:04 am
Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:08 am to mikeboss550
I agree, he deserves to go out his way! We will miss his barbs in the future. Loved listening to TOBC!
Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:12 am to Arkiebarkie
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I agree, he deserves to go out his way! We will miss his barbs in the future. Loved listening to TOBC!
No one said he doesn't deserve that right, but he Isnt above deserved criticism for the choice he has made.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:37 am to mikeboss550
Honestly people, what good would it do anyone to stay? If he doesn't feel like he's furthering the team at all, what's the point in sticking around for fun and goofing off when the program could be searching for a replacement now?
Everybody always talks about the Spurrier pride and his massive ego and everything, but do you really think someone who's blinded by pride and a huge ego would openly say on his resignation day that he couldn't coach his own team effectively, admit that he couldn't turn them into winners, admit that he can't and won't ever win an SEC Championship, and ultimately just say that he needs to get out of the way while younger guys replace him? That doesn't sound like something prideful people would say. You can't run away from the responsibility if you already took it. I honestly think that the more selfish and prideful thing to do would be to stick around and be in everybody's way even though you know you can't do what your ego wants you to do anymore. He literally said that he thinks he's completely lost it, plain and simple. There's no need to stay on the team to confirm what's already been confirmed. It won't prove anything more about this season failing, he'll only waste everybody's time sticking around just to look good and pretty on his way out. It's the ugliest way to go out, but he was able to do it on his own terms and he knows that this was the best thing for the program.
These young guys get a massive head start at adapting to a new head coach and they get a fighting chance to take on these last 6 opponents under different leadership. This also gives the athletics director much more time to find the best head coach possible. This gives the program an opportunity to breathe new life into Gamecock Football. A brand new start. But of course the people who are blinded by their hatred for Spurrier won't see any of the positives that came from this. They'll complain that Spurrier should have stuck around and held his players as well as the whole program back. Yeah, sure, great idea.
Everybody always talks about the Spurrier pride and his massive ego and everything, but do you really think someone who's blinded by pride and a huge ego would openly say on his resignation day that he couldn't coach his own team effectively, admit that he couldn't turn them into winners, admit that he can't and won't ever win an SEC Championship, and ultimately just say that he needs to get out of the way while younger guys replace him? That doesn't sound like something prideful people would say. You can't run away from the responsibility if you already took it. I honestly think that the more selfish and prideful thing to do would be to stick around and be in everybody's way even though you know you can't do what your ego wants you to do anymore. He literally said that he thinks he's completely lost it, plain and simple. There's no need to stay on the team to confirm what's already been confirmed. It won't prove anything more about this season failing, he'll only waste everybody's time sticking around just to look good and pretty on his way out. It's the ugliest way to go out, but he was able to do it on his own terms and he knows that this was the best thing for the program.
These young guys get a massive head start at adapting to a new head coach and they get a fighting chance to take on these last 6 opponents under different leadership. This also gives the athletics director much more time to find the best head coach possible. This gives the program an opportunity to breathe new life into Gamecock Football. A brand new start. But of course the people who are blinded by their hatred for Spurrier won't see any of the positives that came from this. They'll complain that Spurrier should have stuck around and held his players as well as the whole program back. Yeah, sure, great idea.
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 7:40 am
Posted on 10/14/15 at 7:52 am to Rescue22
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Honestly people, what good would it do anyone to stay
If South car was undefeated, does he retire?
If the answer is no then he went out like a bitch because he couldn't stand getting murked like he used to murk team during his UF years.
You don't sign up to be head coach for the season and then quit because it was too hard.
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 7:57 am
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:11 am to Rescue22
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These young guys get a massive head start at adapting to a new head coach.
they get a fighting chance to take on these last 6 opponents under different leadership.
This also gives the athletics director much more time to find the best head coach possible. This gives the program an opportunity to breathe new life into Gamecock Football. A brand new start.
But of course the people who are blinded by their hatred for Spurrier won't see any of the positives that came from this. They'll complain that Spurrier should have stuck around and held his players as well as the whole program back. Yeah, sure, great idea.
Having to adapt from spurrier to a lame duck interim head coach and then a brand new coach seems like an extra and unnecessary step.
The drive to "win one to send him off in style" for the ol ball coach isn't there. Thats often a motivating factor in such situations.
Gives the AD the same amount of time as an end of year retirement announcment would have. The brand new start comes once that new guy arrives, and not a moment before.
No hate here. Its lazy to put everyone who dislikes quitters into such a category.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:17 am to djsdawg
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Gives the AD the same amount of time as an end of year retirement announcment would have. The brand new start comes once that new guy arrives, and not a moment before.
It's giving Elliott the opportunity to audition for the job that he wouldn't have had before.
Steve was getting it done the past 2 years, and so a new change could be beneficial. It couldn't be worse, we were already on track to win only 1 or 2 more games.
It now gives AD Tanner the ability to talk openly with potential candidates and avoids months of media speculation and leaks about who he's talking to and why. The uncertainty is one of the things that was hurting the program. It avoids the circus.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:20 am to mikeboss550
Me thinks it went down this way. OBC had a meeting with the AD. AD says that we appreciate what you have done but we are going to go a different direction at the end of this season.
OBC says, in that case, since I will not be told what or how to do it, call the press conference. I'm out of here now.
OBC drops the mic. Walks over to the AD's desk, grabs some skittles out of the jar on the desk. Starts chewing them and says these are good with a smirk on his face. Picks up the phone on the AD's desk and calls for a tee time in Augusta.
OBC says, in that case, since I will not be told what or how to do it, call the press conference. I'm out of here now.
OBC drops the mic. Walks over to the AD's desk, grabs some skittles out of the jar on the desk. Starts chewing them and says these are good with a smirk on his face. Picks up the phone on the AD's desk and calls for a tee time in Augusta.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:23 am to mikeboss550
It's much more beneficial to SC in the long run if he gets out of the way now so recruits won't have to worry about how long he'll be there and they can get a head start on the coach search. Spurrier knew this and he's at a point in his life where he doesn't GAF if it looks bad on him to some people. Pretty selfless move IMO
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:25 am to mikeboss550
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How can you honestly blast a man for leaving seeing the writing on the wall.
His decision was the best for himself and USC....
HOWEVER...
According to his own exit press conference, Tanner asked him to stay on until the end of the season but he wouldn't because he saw little chance of success. Now here was a man who often took delight in running up the score on defeated opponents. Clearly he has a "can dish it out but can't take it" personality.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:26 am to mikeboss550
Spurrier came into the SEC a visor throwing pissy bitch and left just the same, minus the visor throw. He will be a sore loser til the day he dies. Not that it's a bad thing, it just is what it is. DWI.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:28 am to mikeboss550
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The man realized he overstayed his time here in SC.
We know he was a good coach. I guess coaching and winning championships is like real estate. Location! Location! Location!
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:30 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Honestly people, what good would it do anyone to stay
If South car was undefeated, does he retire?
If the answer is no then he went out like a bitch because he couldn't stand getting murked like he used to murk team during his UF years.
You don't sign up to be head coach for the season and then quit because it was too hard.
We all know the answer to this question and it proves the point.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:39 am to djsdawg
Here's what the players think....
Mike Matulis
Skai Moore
T.J. Holloman
Brandon Shell
Isaiah Johnson
Mike Matulis
Skai Moore
T.J. Holloman
Brandon Shell
Isaiah Johnson
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 8:40 am
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:45 am to djsdawg
He simply could have said yesterday that he was stepping down at the end of the season. Then AD can start looking and everyone interested would know it was coming open. I've always been a fan of Spurrier, admired his talent and enjoyed his humor. But I put a lot of stock in the character of a man and he lost some respect I previously had. Does that matter to anyone? No. But it matters to me.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:52 am to Rickdaddy4188
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If South car was undefeated, does he retire?
Of fricking course he wouldn't retire. He's stepping down because he realizes he isn't doing it right anymore. Who retires because they're winning? He admitted that he sucks now and that he takes full responsibility for what he's done this year and last year. He wants to get out of the way so somebody who's better can rebuild what he just couldn't. To not hold the team back anymore. Don't you understand that??
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 8:56 am
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:53 am to Rickdaddy4188
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If SC was 6-0 do you think he would quit? That's where the coward shite come from. He didn't like losing like he was. Getting embarrassed.
First of all, he's not even considered "retiring," he's resigning just like any other high-profile, respectable coach would do in his position. Second, he blames the losses from this season on himself and is the main reason he's resigning; because he feels he just can't get it done anymore and is doing a disservice to the players and fans. So yes, if he was 6-0 he wouldn't be stepping away, but for different reasons than you're implying. Most coaches in his position would hold out and get fired at the end of the season for the money instead of doing the honorable thing and resigning.
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 8:57 am
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:54 am to djsdawg
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I hate how he chose go out because quitting is what losers do and it sets a poor example for the young men he was supposed to lead. Those kids deserved better.
in a general sense I agree with this. BUT, in this case I think it's different. there has been a lot of guessing on when spurrier will retire and it has affected recruiting and would continue to do so. his "resignation" stops that talk and allows USCe to move forward. it is clear that his recruiting had fallen off the last few years and he just didn't have the hossed to compete for titles.
if USCe can find a good replacement pretty quick recruiting can pick up and spurriers timing will be viewed as a godsend.
Posted on 10/14/15 at 8:57 am to mikeboss550
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The man realized he overstayed his time here in SC. His players hold no grudge, so neither should you. With all of this said all the haters can just go eat a dick and STFU.
If he felt like he didn't have it anymore, didn't have what it takes to coach at an elite level in the toughest conference in the country and wants to hang it up, that's perfectly fine. he's done it all and doesn't owe an explanation.
But he should have announced his retirement and then proceeded to coach out the season. We are only talking six more weeks and another five games. He owed it to his players, the guys he recruited, and his coaches and staff to see it out. In his presser he said he "resigned" not "retired". Obviously, he was not hearing what he wanted from the SC admin., could only see L's the rest of the way and just quit.
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