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re: TN, UGA or Auburn?

Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:21 pm to
Your 50 claim is exactly the same as Alabama's 41. Just Saiyan.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:27 pm to
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Your 50 claim is exactly the same as Alabama's 41. Just Saiyan.


Tennessee has just as solid a claim as OU

"Tennessee was voted national champions by a preponderance of selectors, with 18 to Oklahoma's 11.[1]"
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted by AuburnOwnsSEC
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:31 pm to
auburn already a blue blood
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:39 pm to
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NCAA doesn't award Championships in football, so I don't give a flying frick what that says.

Okay.
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UT has 4 legitimate recognized National Championships. Could claim more, but won't.

LSU could say the same thing.
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Better in almost every category.

Okay, but not all, and not by much in most. That was my entire point.
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I consider LSU a Blueblood as well.

You are one of the few. Practically no one outside of the SEC.

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Also, LSU did not win the SEC in 84.

Florida did, and then had to vacate the title. Therefore LSU represented the SEC in the Sugar as the next best team. LSU also tied UF in '84 in Gainesville, 21 all.
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Your own website doesn't claim it.

You don't have to link it, I know they don't. They also don't acknowledge a title for 1908, even though the NCAA does.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:42 pm to
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Tennessee has just as solid a claim as OU

"Tennessee was voted national champions by a preponderance of selectors, with 18 to Oklahoma's 11.[1]"

Y'all weren't #1 in the AP or Coaches (just like 41 Bama). Y'all didn't even win the SEC (just like 41 Bama).
And you definitely miscounted on the selectors (see page 77 of the records book).
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:43 pm to
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You don't have to link it, I know they don't. They also don't acknowledge a title for 1908, even though the NCAA does.

You'd have a point except for the fact that it says 84 was vacated in the SEC media guide.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:47 pm to
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You'd have a point except for the fact that it says 84 was vacated in the SEC media guide.

Also, I understand that UF still has the trophy, is that right?

Still hard not to acknowledge the best ETA: non-cheating team in the SEC as champions.









frickallayall, I'm claiming it.




This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 3:49 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 3:50 pm to
What's fricked up is we got hit with the bowl ban and the SEC office still said we could be champs only to take it away later (yet Auburn got to keep their 57 title).



Posted by BigOrangeBri
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:14 pm to
[quote]Y'all weren't #1 in the AP or Coaches (just like 41 Bama). Y'all didn't even win the SEC (just like 41 Bama). And you definitely miscounted on the selectors (see page 77 of the records book).[/
National Championship selectors 1950

Tennessee beat Kentucky, the team OU lost to in their bowl.

Tennessee 1950 National Champs. As legit as it gets
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:15 pm to
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frickallayall, I'm claiming it.


That's cool, but I've literally never seen anything, anywhere that has LSU as 84 SEC champs
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:15 pm to
Then you can't say anything to Bama about their 41 claim. Can't have it both ways.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:17 pm to
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BigOrangeBri

And I see you're getting your info from the CFDW about supposed selections in 50. Well guess what? That very same site has LSU ranked ahead of UT all-time. Guess you didn't think that one through.

https://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/rankings/all_time_team_rankings.php
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:21 pm to
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And I see you're getting your info from the CFDW about supposed selections in 50. Well guess what? That very same site has LSU ranked ahead of UT all-time. Guess you didn't think that one through.


Dude, I don't care what a made up points system says we're ranked at. The numbers speak for themselves.

Tennessee was the only top 5 team to win their bowl game and was named by multiple selectors as National Champions. The system was flawed. It is what it is
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:21 pm to
You can't have it both ways then.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:30 pm to
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You can't have it both ways then.


Not that I care about 1941 Bama, but they lost 2 games and were only chosen by 1 selector. Minnesota had 34 selectors

1950 Tennessee was 11-1 to OUs 10-1 and was chosen by multiple selectors.

Really not comparable to 41 bama
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 4:32 pm
Posted by bulldawger
Fish Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:30 pm to
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Guess this eliminates Georgia.


My comment was tongue in cheek about the idiocy of the thread.


But since you wanted to play, the University of Georgia claims two national titles, one in 1942 and one in 1980. Yes, I'm aware that number pales in comparison of the number Alabama claims, but there it is.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:31 pm to
Sure it is. Neither was #1 in the AP or Coaches. Neither won the SEC. Both won the Cotton.
And if OU can't claim it because they lost their bowl then there goes your 51 claim for losing the bowl (on top of the ridiculous 40 and 67 claims).
This post was edited on 5/19/15 at 4:32 pm
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:35 pm to
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Sure it is. Neither was #1 in the AP or Coaches. Neither won the SEC. Both won the Cotton. And if OU can't claim it because they lost their bowl then there goes your 51 claim for losing the bowl (on top of the ridiculous 40 and 67 claims).


Like I said before the system was flawed, but Tennessee has a very legitimate claim to 1950 based on several different factors.

And Tennessee beat the SEC champs(Kentucky) we just played one less game in conference play that year for some reason. UK was 5-1 UT was 4-1

Bama finished 3rd in the SEC in 41. Not comparable
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12273 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:37 pm to
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And if OU can't claim it because they lost their bowl then there goes your 51 claim for losing the bowl


I didn't say OU can't claim it. They have a legitimate claim as well
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/19/15 at 4:37 pm to
Do you get something for finishing #2 instead of #3?
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