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Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:21 pm to Serraneaux
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Rick Barnes has like 23 NCAA T appearances.
Stallings has 6 in 16 years at Vandy with 2 sweet 16s and 4 first round busts as the higher seed.
Oh I know. I'm saying even if you give credence to him being a Marc Richt type, it's a different world he's stepped into. If he starts winning the support will roll in and that matters when taking it to a higher level. UT is located in one of those states that loves and supports basketball and he can definitely achieve here. Our facilities don't take a back seat to anyone.
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:31 pm to Hawgeye
Wake Forest just beat top 25 ranked Indiana.. that's a good win for vandy.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 7:58 pm to WildcatMike
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Bro, they are Sweet 16 type team. They have some outside shooters with a nasty post. They legit.
I never pick vandy to go anywhere in the tournament. Well I did one time then they pulled a vandy on me. never pick them to make tournament runs ever no matter how good they look.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:03 pm to Prof
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I don't know. They'll deny it but you really did manage to piss off TAMU fans with the brisket remark and that was epic.
How come when we were in despair the trolling never stopped? It's that perpetual thing isn't it? In all seriousness, I want Vandy to do well just not against us.
That is true. I was expecting only a few downvotes, but I ended up with more than I could have dreamed of, so that was a success. Unfortunately, lots of TAMU posters are good people and have a sense of humor, so they just took it in stride. I looked longingly at all the potential downvotes I might have garnered.
The difference between y'all and us is that you have hope, you have dreams, you have a cheery Broadway number in your hearts. Don't have hope. That'll kill you every time.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:10 pm to Prof
quote:Texas vs. Vanderbilt. You're better than this.
Yep and in a tougher basketball league (although this one has been getting a lot better and is probably in front right now though still behind prestige wise)
There are a lot of insecure Vols ITT. Vandy has a really good team this year. Stallings career record doesn't mean shite. You never know what'll happen in the postseason, but they're good enough to go into the second weekend and beyond.
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:13 pm to GatorsGators
Who the hell is talking Texas vs. Vandy?
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:15 pm to Hawgeye
They've looked very, very good. Wouldn't surprise me if they won the SEC either.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:16 pm to randomways
Anchor down. Tennessee sure can suck a peen. Bros amirite
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:16 pm to Prof
You were comparing Barnes to Stallings by saying it's harder to win in the Big XII than the SEC... But it's also harder to win at Vanderbilt than at Texas.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:24 pm to randomways
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That is true. I was expecting only a few downvotes, but I ended up with more than I could have dreamed of, so that was a success. Unfortunately, lots of TAMU posters are good people and have a sense of humor, so they just took it in stride. I looked longingly at all the potential downvotes I might have garnered.
The difference between y'all and us is that you have hope, you have dreams, you have a cheery Broadway number in your hearts. Don't have hope. That'll kill you every time.
I don't know. Being pessimistic is sort of its own protection and a vocal portion of our fans down our coach at every chance because of that.
Or as Nietzche put it, "Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
But all that depends on your perspective. Personally I'm finally experiencing some optimism/hope for the future and it does make all the difference for me. I feel we're thisclose to turning the corner. But at the same time, I'll be damned if those close losses don't hurt more than we were hopeless.
That all said, your defense is really good and there's no denying you've made progress since last year.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:25 pm to GatorsGators
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You were comparing Barnes to Stallings by saying it's harder to win in the Big XII than the SEC... But it's also harder to win at Vanderbilt than at Texas.
You're picking on the wrong poster but yeah the B12, especially throughout Barnes' career there was harder.
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:31 pm to Prof
This team is very talented, balanced and deep. There appears to be a different relationship between Stallings and this team than previous years. He needs to go pretty deep in March with this team to meet expectations. We'll see.
Would have liked to have played Indiana tonight. Would have been a better test. Kansas obviously will be a big test tomorrow night.
Would have liked to have played Indiana tonight. Would have been a better test. Kansas obviously will be a big test tomorrow night.
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:31 pm to Prof
The Big XII is harder as a whole, yes, but I'd say it's harder to win in the SEC at Vanderbilt than it is to win in the Big XII at Texas.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:45 pm to volfan30
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Rick Barnes
Are Tennessee fans excited over him? I also felt he greatly underachieved at Texas. Don't think he is a bad coach and he can definitely recruit but I think he had some really great teams that he wasn't able to take far in the tournament. Tournament can come down to luck at certain points though so it is probably not all his fault.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 8:52 pm to rockiee
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Are Tennessee fans excited over him? I also felt he greatly underachieved at Texas. Don't think he is a bad coach and he can definitely recruit but I think he had some really great teams that he wasn't able to take far in the tournament. Tournament can come down to luck at certain points though so it is probably not all his fault.
I think a change of scenery is exactly what he needed. I don't expect much this year but I do think he was a great hire. Unless you're UK, making the tourney damn near every year is nothing to sniff at. You can say he underachieved but a lot of things go into the tourney equation. It's not called March Madness for nothing. Inferior teams make deep runs and knock off better teams all the time, draws and matchups matter a great deal, and on and on.
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Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:06 pm to Prof
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You can say he underachieved but a lot of things go into the tourney equation.
There is no doubt. I think most of my negative thoughts were from that team he had with Durant. Durant was a beast.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 9:42 pm to rockiee
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There is no doubt. I think most of my negative thoughts were from that team he had with Durant. Durant was a beast.
Absolutely but sometimes that's not enough. It took Summitt years to get over the hump in tourney play but once she did she was unstoppable. Barnes is no Summitt but the general point remains. Although these days, super-teams seem to be the norm with the men's tourney. Shame too. I'd like to see more teams challenge the traditional All-Star type teams like UK is notorious for.
Regardless, Barnes is a good hire for us. Gotta walk before you can run and although we've had some good teams our program is no where near it's potential. If nothing else, I think Barnes will take us a step closer to our goals.
Posted on 11/24/15 at 10:22 pm to Prof
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I don't know. Being pessimistic is sort of its own protection and a vocal portion of our fans down our coach at every chance because of that.
Or as Nietzche put it, "Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
But all that depends on your perspective. Personally I'm finally experiencing some optimism/hope for the future and it does make all the difference for me. I feel we're thisclose to turning the corner. But at the same time, I'll be damned if those close losses don't hurt more than we were hopeless.
That all said, your defense is really good and there's no denying you've made progress since last year.
We're going with Nietzsche? Hmm. Then I'd paraphrase Morgan Freeman and Tim Robbins: "Remember, Prof, hope is a horrible thing, maybe the worst of things, and no horrible thing ever dies....Let me tell you something, my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane." Hope can destroy a fan. That's why LSU fans are clamoring for the firing of a coach who averaged 10 wins a season. Saban taught them how to hope and now they're looking into the abyss. We Vandy grads understand this. Give up on hope and other SEC fans won't be able to touch you.
But, yeah, y'all are turning a corner. I'm not so sure about us. Yet. I'm happy about our defense, just wondering what it'll take to fix the offense. Recruiting talent isn't exactly our wheelhouse. We can look at players like Jordan Matthews and Jay Cutler, but we didn't have them at the same time.
This post was edited on 11/24/15 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 11/25/15 at 2:47 pm to randomways
No offense intended to the rest of the rant as I know some would be ok with it but yeah, I feel comfortable quoting Neitzche to ya.
I think Mason will be able to build off his defensive success. It's put you in many games and even won you a few. It's the offensive side of the ball that's troubling. Jordan Matthews was the most underrated player in the SEC, imo. And to be fair, if y'all still had Patton Robinette you'd be in better position. BUT Mason doesn't have the personality or connections (just yet) to recruit in the SEC. I don't think he knows a thing about scouting offensive talent either. It takes a real eye to spot underrated offensive talent.
That said, it can change. Mason needs to hire a scout/recruiter known for finding good offensive players that are underrated and overlooked. Hard to find, I know but it can be done. He also needs to learn how to sell better -- he's obviously a fantastic defensive mind and his defensive players love him. If we ever lost our DC, I'd LOVE to have him there as would many others.
He's so raw at HC though that I think he has tons to learn. Whether he gets there or not is anybody's guess.
I think Mason will be able to build off his defensive success. It's put you in many games and even won you a few. It's the offensive side of the ball that's troubling. Jordan Matthews was the most underrated player in the SEC, imo. And to be fair, if y'all still had Patton Robinette you'd be in better position. BUT Mason doesn't have the personality or connections (just yet) to recruit in the SEC. I don't think he knows a thing about scouting offensive talent either. It takes a real eye to spot underrated offensive talent.
That said, it can change. Mason needs to hire a scout/recruiter known for finding good offensive players that are underrated and overlooked. Hard to find, I know but it can be done. He also needs to learn how to sell better -- he's obviously a fantastic defensive mind and his defensive players love him. If we ever lost our DC, I'd LOVE to have him there as would many others.
He's so raw at HC though that I think he has tons to learn. Whether he gets there or not is anybody's guess.
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 2:49 pm
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