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re: The slowdown rule does NOT affect only a couple of plays per game

Posted on 2/26/14 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 4:28 pm to
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do what they do best-cry and whine.


You talking about Bama?

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They sure didn't say anything about a year and half ago when Saban approached the subject.


I like to make up my own versions of the past as well. its really fun
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 4:33 pm to
So, are the Swine and Pachyderms mutually masturbating over this rule change nonsense? That's the general feel I get.


If BB thinks this rule change will improve his success against A&M, he needs to go re-watch the physical ground-game arse beating his team took at the hands of both A&M and Auburn.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 4:34 pm to
Bert is lobbying to get into Saban's favor because Nick has those little Debbie's on lock son
Posted by headrusch
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 4:55 pm to
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API would do what they do best-cry and whine. Just like they've been doing for 2 wks.now. They sure didn't say anything about a year and half ago when Saban approached the subject.


Nice little role reversal there where its Saban who is whining to have the rules changed to help him.

80% of everyone else just wants to keep it the way it is and learn to work with in it as some schools (LSU and Auburn specifically cited earlier) have been able to do .

Posted by coachcrisp
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:05 pm to
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quote:The offense HURRIES to the line of scrimmage. THEN they get the play signalled in. The fact that the offense is lined up over the ball means they COULD snap at any time, so the defense cannot take the chance on subbing. Why is this point getting past so many people? It's obvious.Because the point is the offense never actually forces the defense not to sub. The defense has every right to sub until the ball is snapped.
If I put a cocked pistol to your head and tell you that if you move, I'll blow your fricking brains onto the wall behind you, would you move?...I'm not forcing you to not move....you have every right to move.
NOW, 1) Would you move? 2) Why wouldn't you move?
This post makes as much sense as your post.
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:05 pm to
didnt need this thread. but since you started it, i would rather see them implement a rule specifically to counter that rather than this 10 second rule, something like what the nfl does with the sidline communication cutoff. i think only the qb on the o should be able to get signals from the sideline and maybe the middle linebacker on defense, and it should be up to the players on both sides to distribute the play and make their own presnap adjustments. you should be able to go as fast as you want, as long as you also can get the play called in before you line up. the meerkat offense line is the real bullshite, not tempo. should be 4 false starts.
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:07 pm to
Where is BamaDoc14 to yell at you for starting another HUNH thread?
Posted by Dplymkr88
VA
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:10 pm to
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ncorrect. The defense can substitute when the offense is over the ball.


And risk a too many men on the field penalty. Sure.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:11 pm to
Hush you. No one cares.
Posted by Dplymkr88
VA
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:11 pm to
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Bert is lobbying to get into Saban's favor because Nick has those little Debbie's on lock son


You have to sell your soul to get those creamy oatmeal pies...
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:13 pm to
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should be 4 false starts


The d should have to follow the same motion rules the offense abides by then.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:19 pm to
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And risk a too many men on the field penalty. Sure.
Well yeh, that is a risk. They also risk getting burned deep when they blitz. I mean everything yall are pointing out shows how the offense is on the offense when they have the ball while the defense has to be on the defense because of the HUNH. Mind blowing an unfair, i know
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:24 pm to
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the meerkat offense line is the real bullshite


Finally, something to agree on. It took me a couple of years to figure out why that wasn't a penalty every time.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:26 pm to
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Finally, something to agree on. It took me a couple of years to figure out why that wasn't a penalty every time.
Because it isnt against the rules: it is not intended that Rule 7-1-4-a should prohibit smooth, rhythmical shifts if properly executed. A smooth cadence shift or unhurried motion is not an infraction. However, it is the responsibility of an offensive player who moves before the snap to do so in a manner that in no way simulates the beginning of a play. After the ball is ready for play and all players are in scrimmage formation, no offensive player shall make a quick, jerky movement before the snap, including but not limited to
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 5:27 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94931 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:30 pm to
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I can see why the LSU guy would want to put an extra guy in to protect his QB., because when they play Bama he stays on his arse anyway!
Exactly, it is completely unfair when we play Bama that the defense disguises there blitz packages. If we knew they were blitzing we would sub in different players. It is unfair and it got our players injured. Obviously, this is sarcasm. But how can yall not see this is exactly what yall are doing. As an LSU fan i have no skin in the game, but it is obvious these coaches are trying to change the rule in order to gain an advantage. Hell, i dont blame them. But why cant yall admit that is the only sole purpose of this proposal?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 5:44 pm to
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The d should have to follow the same motion rules the offense abides by then.
offense already had the advantage of having the ball and knowing what the play is, defense has the advantage of not having to adhere to motion rules. There should be balancing advantages and disadvantages. Problem is all the recent rules put defenses at a disadvantage with nothing to compensate.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 6:41 pm
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:06 pm to
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And risk a too many men on the field penalty. Sure.
How long does it take a guy to run off the field?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:13 pm to
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How long does it take a guy to run off the field?
you do understand that the whole reason tabs rush to line up before they even have a play called is to catch defenses trying to substitute and snapping the ball when they have to many or too few men on the field? In that case it's just about trying to get a penalty or stopping the d from substituting. You could do it as in a pro style offense. Doesn't make it less of a cheap shot
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 6:18 pm to
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you do understand that the whole reason tabs rush to line up before they even have a play called is to catch defenses trying to substitute and snapping the ball when they have to many or too few men on the field? In that case it's just about trying to get a penalty or stopping the d from substituting. You could do it as in a pro style offense. Doesn't make it less of a cheap shot
Yes, I do know that's why they do it. there's still time to run off the field and get a new guy on. If the defender is too much of a fat arse to get off the field or be on the field for 3 straight plays, then he shouldn't be on the field to start with.
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