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re: The slowdown rule does NOT affect only a couple of plays per game
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:56 pm to Crimson Legend
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:56 pm to Crimson Legend
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The offense HURRIES to the line of scrimmage. THEN they get the play signalled in. The fact that the offense is lined up over the ball means they COULD snap at any time, so the defense cannot take the chance on subbing.
Why is this point getting past so many people? It's obvious.
i guess they don't want the facts. it's not unusual that people want their way and don't want to know the truth. it is NOT anti hurry up, it's anti substitution prevention. that simple. the pros think it's legitimate to prevent the D from substitution; i think it's bush league, a gimmick and basically bull shite.
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:57 pm to Crimson Legend
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But none of that changes my point in THIS thread. The slowdown rule affects every play that the HUNH is used, because the offense rushes to the LOS and the defense cannot afford to attempt to sub.
You can't rush a sub on while the offense rushes to the line?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:57 pm to lsupride87
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In order to make bama and ark happy, and make everything compeltely fair, the offense now has to tell the defense exactly what play they are running,
Well frick, we were holding up giant play cards and that wasn't enough. Sheesh...
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:58 pm to LSU GrandDad
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i guess they don't want the facts. it's not unusual that people want their way and don't want to know the truth. it is NOT anti hurry up, it's anti substitution prevention. that simple. the pros think it's legitimate to prevent the D from substitution; i think it's bush league, a gimmick and basically bull shite.
If the offense doesnt sub should the defense be allowed to sub via rule?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:00 pm to LSU GrandDad
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i guess they don't want the facts. it's not unusual that people want their way and don't want to know the truth. it is NOT anti hurry up, it's anti substitution prevention. that simple. the pros think it's legitimate to prevent the D from substitution; i think it's bush league, a gimmick and basically bull shite.
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:01 pm to kilo
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If the offense doesnt sub should the defense be allowed to sub via rule?
I have no problem with not letting the defense sub.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:01 pm to The_Joker
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If the offense doesnt sub should the defense be allowed to sub via rule?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:02 pm to Crimson Legend
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I think the offense should be allowed to control the tempo as long as they don't sub. If they choose to sub, the defense should be allowed to sub without relying on a referee to stand over the ball (subjective enforcement) until the defensive player gets in position.
So no change?
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(subjective enforcement
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the defense cannot afford to attempt to sub.
then why are many teams actually able to do it?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:02 pm to Crimson Legend
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So even if the offense waits 20 seconds before snapping, the defense still can't sub because if they tried, the offense could just snap the ball while players were leaving the field.
If the Offense waits 20 seconds to snap the ball then the Defense just got themselves a breather. Player safety should not be a concern at that point.
It's all about subbing in personal to match the Offensive scheme being ran at any particular time.
That is the very reason everyone has started back tracking.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:04 pm to pvilleguru
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I have no problem with not letting the defense sub.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:04 pm to kilo
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If the offense doesnt sub should the defense be allowed to sub via rule?
I like how several people call the HUNH cheating when subbing in players after seeing what the other team is lining up, or having an extra man on the field until play called, is pretty much the same cheating as well.
its like on madden back in the day(not sure if the same, havent played in a while) when you saw what play sets the O had to choose from, then you select the D play
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:06 pm to kilo
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If the offense doesnt sub should the defense be allowed to sub via rule?
Either side should be allowed to fairly sub whenever they want
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:06 pm to Crimson Legend
What if a team is running out of time and needs to spike the ball? Do they have to wait 10 seconds? What if they only have 5 on the clock.
I don't get the rule.
I don't get the rule.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:08 pm to NYCAuburn
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its like on madden back in the day(not sure if the same, havent played in a while) when you saw what play sets the O had to choose from, then you select the D play
I figured out a way to prevent this. Wait until the 10 second run off is done to get set.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:08 pm to The_Joker
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Either side should be allowed to fairly sub whenever they want
They can do that now.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:08 pm to NYCAuburn
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I like how several people call the HUNH cheating when subbing in players after seeing what the other team is lining up, is pretty much the same cheating as well.
The proponents of the rule have morphed their narrative multiple times as their arguments were more or less destroyed.
I dont think it will pass. Its a bad precedent to set using an obviously bull shite motive of player safety to change an aspect of the game to favor a teams style of play.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:08 pm to KaiserSoze99
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What if a team is running out of time and needs to spike the ball? Do they have to wait 10 seconds? What if they only have 5 on the clock.
I don't get the rule.
Not shocking. You obviously haven't even read the rule. It's not enforced in the final 2 minutes of either half.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:09 pm to The_Joker
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Either side should be allowed to fairly sub whenever they want
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:10 pm to The_Joker
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Not shocking. You obviously haven't even read the rule. It's not enforced in the final 2 minutes of either h
That's still terrible. If I'm down 14, I would want to run at a faster pace well before there's only 2 minutes left.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 3:11 pm to The_Joker
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It's not enforced in the final 2 minutes of either half.
Why risk player safety just because its in the final two minutes?
The rule and those supporting it look like fricking fools.
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