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re: The SEC: We really are different

Posted on 12/8/13 at 5:44 pm to
Posted by HumbleNinja
Ann Arbor
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Posted on 12/8/13 at 5:44 pm to
It's not a we hate each other type thing. People were partially because it's tOSU but mostly Sparty fans were booing Jim Delaney.

A lot of people despise him as the head of the B1G, and Michigan State fans are probably the most adamant about it.
Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/8/13 at 5:46 pm to
Wasn't one of them. Especially since everyone claimed Auburn couldn't stop Oregon's "unstoppable" offense in the NCG.

I've been all-SEC since Auburn didn't get in in '04. And it was well documented about the disrespect shown to Florida before the title game in '06.



Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79190 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 5:49 pm to
As an AU guy I appreciate the support of SEC fans. I am at least somewhat fond of most schools in the conference until we play them. I'll root for most of you in your bowl games.

The exceptions are Bama and UGA, of course. The level of UGA bitterness is astounding, they're just out of their minds with AU-hatred.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 6:28 pm to
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i get it. i remember back in '92 (i think) hanging out at a bar, getting ready to watch the bama/miami championship. originally i was gonna pull for miami, but in the hour leading up to the game, i heard nothing but contempt towards bama & the SEC in general. even 'tho i was gonna pull for the canes, i dared to suggest that bama had a solid chance at pulling out the W, if for no other reason than they were more battle-tested in the regular season. i mean, the nerve of me, right? so, after enduring an endless barrage by a bunch of miami booger-eaters, i finally decided "frick it, i hope bama blows the doors off them". which they did. after that game, i realized how little respect the conference got from outsiders....why, i have no idea, because looking at any schedule would've disproved that hogwash. at that point on, i made it a point to show support for the conference for any OOC matchups, because to this day, i still can't get the miami taste out of my mouth....


This is actually how it all started. A lot the youngins don't remember that until the BCS system was put in place and we were actually allowed to go to the Championship games and win them. The entire country thought we were trash and that our entire conference was trash. They said the ACC, Big 10, USCw and ND were the only conferences and teams worth a damn. Neither Tennessee nor Bama got any respect for their accomplishments past or present during that time and the rest of the conference teams were treated like Austin Peay.

When Tennessee beat FSU in 1998, winning the championship against a team that had been crowned king and we were supposedly not good enough to play against the perception of the SEC started to change. When SEC started rolling to more BCS titles and even spread those titles around to several SEC teams showing how good we really are as a conference, resentment and conspiracy theories grew. When even more racked up an outright hatred of our 'cheating ways' was and remains on full display. But hell when you've graduated to being called a cheater you've at least earned fear and a little respect.

The hatred for all things SEC is such that a few Oregon fans chanted it this year when we played them. They weren't taunting/mocking just Tennessee but the entire league. Any SEC team that plays good OOC opponents on the road will hear this used as taunt. You will read the anti-SEC articles ahead of time and after.

Hell even though SEC pushed for a playoff, you'll hear claims that we blocked it or that it will finally spell our doom.

Go to an SEC entry on ESPN that involves no one but the SEC (no need to look for an SEC vs Other article) and most of the comments will be by people who just saw the word SEC and thought it was an appropriate time to spill their bile.
This post was edited on 12/8/13 at 6:32 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/8/13 at 6:49 pm to
For all of you who will be supporting Auburn during the game: Thank you


For those of you who do not: Frick you
This post was edited on 12/8/13 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 7:46 pm to
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For all of you who will be supporting Auburn during the game: Thank you


For those of you who do not: Frick you



Everyone should be supporting Auburn as well as every other SEC team going bowling. But Auburn is more important to support for obvious reasons.

For the SEC to stay dominant in recruiting we have to stay dominant on the field. FSU is making a run to return things to the first three years of the BCS where they were invited each time despite getting beat in the first one to Tennessee and only winning 1 out of the other two they played and that one was against then-Big East Champ Va. Tech (now an ACC school). The ACC and other conferences are pushing hard to rewrite the narrative and act like they're the shiznit. The conference realignments by them have been done with knocking us from our pedestal as the premier league. THAT effects everyone of us and MUST be stopped.

The ACC needs to put in their place before they can start gaining a real entrance into our recruiting territories (they already have a small one that peels some recruits away), especially since Clemson, Miami, and FSU got some very important wins against us this year. The Clemson victory has been partially avenged by SC's beatdown of them but the BCSCG is critical. The location of most of their schools means they have experience in our recruiting grounds and can use the 'stay close to home' pitch just as we can and they know it.

Auburn is our firewall.
And I will scream my lungs out that you not only win but blow them out. I'd do this anyway but the stakes are higher this year than normal.

So yeah: frick anyone who doesn't get the big picture here. As a conference need this win as much now as we did in 1998.
This post was edited on 12/8/13 at 7:50 pm
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:06 pm to
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Everyone should be supporting Auburn as well as every other SEC team going bowling. But Auburn is more important to support for obvious reasons.

Nope
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:18 pm to
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Nope


I understand y'all got fricked this year and the hand-of-god-like play Auburn pulled off was heartbreaking but it is important to kill the ACCs moment. In fact, so important that it's critical in terms of the future.

No one can force you to cheer for SEC teams in the off-season nor should it be a forced kinda thing.

But you can't deny that it's important for SEC's recruiting and even for our chances of getting 2 SEC teams in the future playoff to maintain dominance. Understand, that were the 4 team playoffs held last season UGA might've been selected alongside Bama because the strength of our conference and the unrivaled dominance over other conferences. If the ACC gains traction that possibility gets slimmer.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:20 pm to
The SEC already has it's exposure. We are already the premiere conference. An AU loss doesn't deter that. At this point any further wins by AU hurts Georgia and I am a Georgia fan, not an SEC fan.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:25 pm to
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The SEC already has it's exposure. We are already the premiere conference. An AU loss doesn't deter that. At this point any further wins by AU hurts Georgia and I am a Georgia fan, not an SEC fan.



Exactly how I feel. The "Go SEC!" attitude is for our bottom feeders who need the SEC's success to justify their terribleness.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:28 pm to
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Exactly how I feel. The "Go SEC!" attitude is for our bottom feeders who need the SEC's success to justify their terribleness.


Yep.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:45 pm to
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Exactly how I feel. The "Go SEC!" attitude is for our bottom feeders who need the SEC's success to justify their terribleness.


Some of y'all are just as bitter today as you were last night. Get over it - Auburn's going to the big dance.

As to justifying terribleness? How exactly could anyone justify their own team's shittiness by SEC victories in bowl games? Does. Not. Compute.

This whole thing is called loyalty and camaraderie... It's much like hating or fighting one of your relatives but beating the shite out of anyone who attacks him. The South is known for it as we rise to the defense of any outsider attacking/stereotyping a southern state even though we throw those stereotypes around all the time. We have a regional uniqueness borne of shared experience like being the butt of every joke by outsiders or accused of something simply because we live in the South. It is what it is but it's not new. When I defend Mississippi from some Jackass who makes a dumb statement about them it's not because I think it will justify my own state (we don't get hit with the same attacks though we do share some attacks in common).
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:46 pm to
Florida State is in the South. Happy?

I don't give a shite about this conference, only Georgia. I don't have to do a damn thing. If I had my way I'd have the SEC collapse and turn into the Big Ten and have Georgia just dominate and get to the title game easier.

I have no need for camaraderie.
This post was edited on 12/8/13 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15336 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:48 pm to
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instead of giving OSU a round of applause or a golf-clap they booed and booed loud and long enough to where it embarrassed their commish who dropped his head and said 'come on' to get the booing to stop


Ever encountered Ohio State fans?
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:51 pm to
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I don't give a shite about this conference, only Tennessee. I don't have to do a damn thing. If I had my way I'd have the SEC collapse and turn into the Big Ten and have Tennessee just dominate and get to the title game easier.

I have no need for camaraderie.



:kige:
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:54 pm to
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Florida State is in the South. Happy?

I don't give a shite about this conference, only Georgia. I don't have to do a damn thing. If I had my way I'd have the SEC collapse and turn into the Big Ten and have Georgia just dominate and get to the title game easier.

I have no need for camaraderie.



Yet they're not in our conference. I don't understand why you don't get it. It's not just about southern teams.

Honestly, I think rooting against opponents in the off season is stupid as hell. And if you feel like you have better chances in the Big 10 -- allow me to remind you that you're free to leave (we have no exit fee).

Celebrating a conference opponent's loss in the off-season or cheering for said loss tends to indicate you take more joy in others losing than your own team winning. Plenty of folks out there who are like that in other conferences so maybe you should request a move. I'm sure they'd love to have you.

As for me, I want my team to win against the best not a bunch of weaklings and will be happy when winning returns to the Hill.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42621 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:57 pm to
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Ever encountered Ohio State fans?


Yeah and I despise Urbz but still even a slow-clap (which is actually an insult), golf clap, or applause so short if you'd have blinked you'd miss it, would've been better than booing.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 8:59 pm to
Yeah I took it as Sparty fans being convinced he wanted OSU to win because of the BCS game.

It seemed like he was trying to upsell an OSU team that was manhandled by a very underrated MSU team.

If the BiG commish is smart he will use MSU's emergence as a strength for his conference .
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:02 pm to
Gig em and War Eagle
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 12/8/13 at 9:14 pm to
Lets be honest.

Most of this "conference pride" shite started with the 80%ers.

Your whole conference is a bunch of jealous coattail riding bottom-feeders...who have never won jack shite...and as fans...decided - we're going to celebrate and latch onto the success of...

LSU, Alabama and Auburn and Florida (but only this past decade)

There was none of this in the 90's - this SEC! chant nonsense...when Florida was dominating - Florida owned your asses and you knew it would look pretty freakin' stupid pretending you had something to do with their success.

Face it. You have the have nots living off of the haves...knowing they will never win shite...Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Arkansas, etc...

They're claiming titles now - "as a conference" - shite...you do realize conferences are just business arrangements, right? This isn't some poltico confederacy and it can change and be dismantled whenever more money comes around.

Pretty stupid and transitive thing to be so proud of compared to your University which endures.
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