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re: The SEC Should Only Send One Team to the Playoff: The Champion
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:55 am to crimsonsaint
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:55 am to crimsonsaint
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crimsonsaint
The SEC Should Only Send One Team to the Playoff: The Champion
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Unless we go to 6 teams, the playoff should only consist of the top 4 conference champs.
Not no but hell no. Nobody gets a free pass just because some team won some weak arse conference championship.
Seriously. Why the frick take a Kansas State over an Auburn, or West Virginia over Alabama, just because they won an inferior conference?
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:56 am to BearBait09
BYU, Boise St, Utah St, La Tech, ND, Colorado St. I dont care who but add two. We have Vandy and Kentucky. Not our top 50 picks either. Just get 14 and you will eliminate this problem.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:57 am to Swoopin
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Any purist who is interested in crowning the champion of college football should know that this line of thinking is ridiculous.
Well put.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:58 am to BearBait09
And if you just look at current top 25. It's 2-1.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:58 am to AlaTiger
So if a 3 loss East team upsets a top 5 undefeated or 1 loss West team, they should go?
No.
No.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:59 am to 3rddownonthe8
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I think any non con champion , will have to have at least a better record than a P5 Conf champ. Ie. If Oregon is sitting at 12-1 s Pac12 champ , Bama at 11-1 non champ is not getting the spot. Yo can't even debate that s viable.
You weren't paying attention when they did their mock back in August, were you? They did exactly what you said they wouldn't do.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:01 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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reading posts from fans of Alabama wanting to sneak into the playoffs rather than go in as champions
If Bama wins out and so does Ole Miss then Bama will make playoffs and Ole Miss will (likely as SEC Champs). My preference is that Bama win out and AU or MSU beat Ole Miss so Bama can have a shot at the playoffs as SEC Champ. Reality, I love winning conference championships, but I don't think any less of the 2011 BCS title that didn't come after an SEC title than I do the 2009 or 2012 BCS titles that did come after SEC titles.
If Bama loses, they're out. If they win out, their in. That's all Bama fans care about...win out.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:01 am to PeaRidgeWatash
They probably wouldn't , but a TCU at 11-1 would go.
I don't understand why a mulligan is needed. You play in the SEC you like bragging that you do. Just win the dang thing and you have no complaints, if you lose a game that's your fault. Don't lose.
I don't understand why a mulligan is needed. You play in the SEC you like bragging that you do. Just win the dang thing and you have no complaints, if you lose a game that's your fault. Don't lose.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:01 am to RT1941
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the Committee wants diveristy
So is that why they matched up Oklahoma and non-champion one loss Texas...in a rematch...but left out the one loss Big Ten champion? Oklahoma vs. Texas is diversity?
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 11:03 am
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:02 am to Skeeterpop
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That would be my top argument and facts for your question.
How many of those OOC teams are currently leading their conferences?
I'm not saying the SECW isn't the strongest division, but what I am saying is that if you can determine which teams are the best via the 'eye test', why not just use that to determine the champion - a la the polls, as it was done for 70 years?
It seems to me that the whole entire idea behind a playoff is to remove subjective criteria from the crowning of a champion. The best way to do that is to invite only conference champs to the playoff.
Either use polls, OR use a playoff. Don't use both.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:05 am to BearBait09
The point is it shows the division is the best from top to bottom than any other. Thus playing the best 6 other teams as a group in the regular season means we have the best SOS. Dont worry. We will lose some more. But we will also win more and put even more pressure on other leagues.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:09 am to bamasgot13
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If Bama wins out and so does Ole Miss then Bama will make playoffs and Ole Miss will (likely as SEC Champs).
Why should Bama go after losing to Mississippi, just because you think Bama is better than Oregon/MSU/FSU?
That's just dumb - I might agree with you, but that is no way to pick playoff contenders. BECAUSE - I guarantee you that the first time this works AGAINST the SEC, heads will explode all over the South.
Think about it, a particularly brutal year in the SEC when the champion goes 6-2/11-2 and there are 4 undefeated OOC teams and the SEC champ doesn't go? [insert exploding head gif here]
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but I don't think any less of the 2011 BCS title
Neither do I, that was the system put in place, and made a really great story line. I also don't think any less of the 2003 or 2007 titles LSU won in spite of all the controversy involved - they won according to the rules in place at the time.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:10 am to AlaTiger
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The playoff should be conference champions only. The SEC Champ would have effectively beaten the best in the SEC. If you cannot win your conference or division, you should not get invited to the playoff for the National Championship. Unless we go to 6 teams, the playoff should only consist of the top 4 conference champs.
I do not care who the SEC Champ is. They should go and that should be it. Other teams have had their chance.
What if AU beats UGA in Athens (and wins all its other games), doesn't go to Atlanta, and 2 loss UGA beats Miss St?
How could you justify sending UGA over Auburn?
We would have beaten them in Athens.
Played a much, much harder schedule.
Have a better record...
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 11:11 am
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:13 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Why should Bama go after losing to Mississippi, just because you think Bama is better than Oregon/MSU/FSU?
bc if bama wins out it will mean they are SEC champs (potentially, unless OM wins out), and have beaten WVU, TAMU, LSU, MSU, and AU. No other top 4 team will have a better resume.
That's a lot of IFs in there, but you don't honestly think simply winning the B1G or the Big12 means you are deserving of a playoff spot, do you? You're smart enough to know not all conferences are created equally. There are likely 5 SEC teams - maybe 6 - that would win the B1G.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:13 am to WildTchoupitoulas
The playoff is because fans and schools fussed two teams was not enough. Especially with the SEC taking 7 of last 8. So how do more teams get in? Playoff!! Why not keep the BCS rankings? Because a group of 12 could have more control than some computers and a few hundred coaches/ media voting.
The problem is that 4 teams now means more SEC teams can get in. So what do the fans scream for then? Conference Champs only of course. Anything to limit the SEC and keep out some of the best teams in football. Because after all we want to be fair and liberal. How dare a Dr make more than a fry cook. We have to even things out for everyone. Makes sense! ??
The problem is that 4 teams now means more SEC teams can get in. So what do the fans scream for then? Conference Champs only of course. Anything to limit the SEC and keep out some of the best teams in football. Because after all we want to be fair and liberal. How dare a Dr make more than a fry cook. We have to even things out for everyone. Makes sense! ??
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:19 am to AlaTiger
So, if LSU was in the running you would feel the same way huh?
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:19 am to RandySavage
You have a valid point , and if that was the case the Auburn should go over UGA, however , not over a P5 Conf champ with the same or better record.
With only 4 spots I think it's highly unlikely a conference gets or deserves 2 teams.
With only 4 spots I think it's highly unlikely a conference gets or deserves 2 teams.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:19 am to bamasgot13
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but you don't honestly think simply winning the B1G or the Big12 means you are deserving of a playoff spot, do you?
Yes.
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You're smart enough to know not all conferences are created equally
That is subjective and irrelevant.
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There are likely 5 SEC teams - maybe 6 - that would win the B1G.
Again, that is irrelevant.
The playoff for the NATIONAL championship should pit teams from different conferences from around the country. What matters should be being the best team in your conference - proven by winning on the field.
Anything else is subjective and prone to backfire on proponents. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it. I want the SEC champion to be GUARANTEED a spot in the playoff, even if they have 3 losses.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:20 am to Bham4Tide
100%. Even if AU is the 2nd team. Sorry but I have no one team bias on this. I believe the best teams should play.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:22 am to AlaTiger
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain....
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