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re: The SEC is underestimating LSU
Posted on 8/7/10 at 6:55 pm to AlaTiger
Posted on 8/7/10 at 6:55 pm to AlaTiger
Dude, it' that way every year or at least since Miles has been around. Top notch talent that really does cause fear amongst your peers but a staff that can't take advantage of that decisive advantage in talent. Same ole LSU........
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Posted on 8/7/10 at 7:28 pm to CrimsonChin
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Dude, it' that way every year or at least since Miles has been around. Top notch talent that really does cause fear amongst your peers but a staff that can't take advantage of that decisive advantage in talent. Same ole LSU........
I hear what you're saying, but I am truly expecting LSU to beat Alabama this year in Tiger Stadium. I am probably one of the few who think this. But, I see it happening. This is why I'm saying that people shouldn't underestimate LSU.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 7:36 pm to AlaTiger
I agree with you AlaTiger
Posted on 8/7/10 at 7:40 pm to Rohan2Reed
I guess the best these other SEC schools can do is try to make fun of a coach that routinely beats them. Its really funny and sad. I cannot believe the degree to which Auburn fans have rationalized their coaching staff' performance. Hold your own coaching staff to the same standard Miles is held to. Talent or no talent, Cheez and company choked as a coaching staff against Alabama last season. They had the game in the bag and the coaches completely sh-te the bed and cost the team the game. Spin it anyway you want, but if Les choked like that in the fourth quarter at home at least our fans would not bail him out with such lame excuses.
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 8/7/10 at 7:44 pm to Rollie Fingers
No one said Chizik was the shite, I still don't even know his capability. The fact of the matter is we are talking about LSU, the coaching staff and their upcoming season and all you can do is talk about Auburn's unproven staff.
This post was edited on 8/7/10 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 8/7/10 at 7:47 pm to Marines4Auburn
What we are talking about is other fans perception of Les Miles in this thread. What we have is a you as an Auburn fan with a completely unproven coach making base claims that Miles is not a good coach, yet he has managed to beat your team for a number of seasons in a row. Yet, your are spinning he is not a good coach. If someone was consistently beating my team, I would probably respect the guy that was coaching the team that was doing it.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 7:48 pm to Marines4Auburn
Haven't read the whole thread, but I agree with the OP.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 7:50 pm to Marines4Auburn
Let me correct myself there, I do not know what it is like to consistently lose to another SEC team, because since Miles has coached it has not happened.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 7:55 pm to Rollie Fingers
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If someone was consistently beating my team, I would probably respect the guy that was coaching the team that was doing it.
Would you say Nutt is a great coach?
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he has managed to beat your team for a number of seasons in a row
So the guy has been beating Auburn with arguably the top 3 most talented program in the country and that is fine? I think the LSU program has been diminishing each year since 07, Miles has been lucky and only able to stay above water because of the talent and coaches that surround him.
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What we have is a you as an Auburn fan with a completely unproven coach making base claims
Again I know Chizik is unproven but what does he have to do with Miles?
In the end all I am saying is if LSU had a better coach they would have been to the BCS the last couple years and not have any losses to teams like OM.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 7:57 pm to Rollie Fingers
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If someone was consistently beating my team, I would probably respect the guy that was coaching the team that was doing it.
Can't argue with that. I think Miles actually is a good coach. The thing is: every coach in the SEC is "good".....you have to be. Mike Dubose and Gerry Dinardo are the exceptions not the rule. There are two great coaches right now and three if you are still on the SOS bandwagon. I believe that Urban or Nick would win championships on a consistent basis with the talent Miles has at his disposal.....heck even with LSU's second string...
Posted on 8/7/10 at 8:03 pm to Marines4Auburn
Miles has a winning record vs. Ole Miss and Arkansas. Trying to piece together victories for Nutt at two different schools is a joke. Over his tenure the only school that can claim a winning record against him is Florida I believe and that is close.
I am not sure what coach you believe could lose an SEC Championship MVP QB and continue to be a BCS power. Oklahoma could not when it lost Bradford last season. If Bama loses McElroy or Florida loses Brantley, they will not be in the BCS picture. But I guess all those schools have goofy head coaches.
I am not sure what coach you believe could lose an SEC Championship MVP QB and continue to be a BCS power. Oklahoma could not when it lost Bradford last season. If Bama loses McElroy or Florida loses Brantley, they will not be in the BCS picture. But I guess all those schools have goofy head coaches.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 8:05 pm to CrimsonChin
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Mike Dubose and Curley Hallman are the exceptions not the rule.
FIFY
Dinardo was not a horrible coach. He got us out of the Archer/Hallman tailspin and recruited well. His problem was stubborness and sticking with Lou Tepper as DC. We went from the #1 defense in the SEC in 1997 to the #12 defense in the SEC in 1998 under Tepper. Dinardo stuck with him and didn't finish the 1999 season.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 8:09 pm to AlaTiger
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I hear what you're saying, but I am truly expecting LSU to beat Alabama this year in Tiger Stadium. I am probably one of the few who think this. But, I see it happening. This is why I'm saying that people shouldn't underestimate LSU.
For LSu to beat Bama in Tiger Stadium will not be a huge upset at all. I dont get this LSu and Auburn were very lucky to win as many in a row against Bama as they did. That is not a slight on either team but it is very rare to run off a string of victories against any of the historical top teams in the sec; th elaw of averages just doesnt favor that especially when you line up against each other every yr.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 8:23 pm to labamafan
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it is very rare to run off a string of victories against any of the historical top teams in the sec; th elaw of averages just doesnt favor that especially when you line up against each other every yr.
I agree. Solid point. I also don't think that beating a team two years in a row constitutes a winning streak, especially if the ganes were competitive. Anything can happen. Now, if you beat a team 4-5 times in a row, then you start talking about winning streaks.
I don't remember too many people focusing on this until Tuberville held his thumb up after beating Bama 5 straight times. It is pretty much a given that a team will beat another 2-3 times in a row and then the situation will reverse itself based on the normal cycles in college football.
That's why I don't feel like we have a win streak against Auburn, even though we have won 3 straight. Auburn gave us great games in 2007-08 to add to the classics throughout the decade. We just happened to come out on top a few times in a row.
Of course, last year was a beat down, but that is an anomoly in this series. Same holds true for the Bama-LSU, Arky-LSU, Ole Miss-LSU series. The only team that we truly have a streak going against is Miss. St., and they are getting better.
The SEC West will be a dogfight and some very good teams will have a losing record in the SEC because of who they play each week. I just don't think LSU will be one of them.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 8:58 pm to AlaTiger
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The SEC West will be a dogfight and some very good teams will have a losing record in the SEC because of who they play each week. I just don't think LSU will be one of them.
I totally agree. LSU will be one of the top three teams in the west this year. Sure Miles has been lucky in a couple of games, but luck probably accounts for less than 0.05% of his success there. After Alabama, LSU will be the toughest challenge for our team this year.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 9:00 pm to Rollie Fingers
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so it appears if you mix in the word "talent level" with the degree to how well the team played on a particular day you could explain away any college football win or loss. Its really just a big bunch of nonsense. Miles has maintained an elite "talent level" while continuing to make his team perform well enough to win games for a longer period of time than any other coach in the SEC West. You just cannot explain it away.
Let's just put it like this. No coach in the SEC is scared of Les Miles' game planning. Have fun defending him. You sound like me defending Mike Shula about 6 years ago.
Posted on 8/7/10 at 9:06 pm to Rollie Fingers
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Spin it anyway you want, but if Les choked like that in the fourth quarter
If?
Posted on 8/7/10 at 9:08 pm to Rollie Fingers
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What we are talking about is other fans perception of Les Miles in this thread
first let me say I have never bashed Les Miles on this site however, how do you expect fanbases of other teams to respect his ability with all of that talent he has and losing as many games in the fashion he has the last two seasons especially considering a very large portion of your fan base rips him apart all the time. I am not talking about rantards on here; I am talking about your everyday joe blow fan that doesnt know TD exists. Outside of JH and his morning show who is a homer to the nth degree and should be for the record, your home town media takes shots at MIles all of the time and to be honest some are quite justified. The fans invest a lot of time and money into LSu and have every right to complain.
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