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re: The safest bet for the Heisman people
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:03 am to Beer Bryant
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:03 am to Beer Bryant
quote:Agreed. This whole scandal thing has ruined Winstons chances
at this point would be to give the award to AJ McCarron
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:51 am to RTR America
fricking stupid.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:56 am to Irons Puppet
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Give it to the BYU QB or one of the Service Academies QB/RB, based on your selection criteria. A QB that throws for 179 yards in his biggest game of the year should not be in the conversation. Giving it to Ingram when he had 5 games under 100yards was bad enough.
If he finishes the regular season after the SEC championship undefeated with 30 plus TD's, 3000 yards and 3 picks would those not be good stats? For a game manager who takes off at halftime to not run the score? You guys are idiots.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:56 am to Beer Bryant
Thanks for not letting me down
Posted on 11/14/13 at 7:59 am to Nortizzle
Did you know that Auburn is 108th in the nation in passing, out of 123 teams? Intredasting.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:00 am to Beer Bryant
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:00 am to Beer Bryant
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Did you know that Auburn is 108th in the nation in passing, out of 123 teams? Intredasting.
They have a safety playing QB and not even a good safety like Landon Collins. They took a smooth criminal kicked out of UGA to play QB and they didn't take Mettsiah.
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 8:01 am
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:04 am to makersmark1
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He is surrounded by great players so I'm sure some voters will discount some of his playmaking.
Hate this argument. Manziel and Winston are not surrounded by a bunch of scrubs.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:06 am to Beer Bryant
As it occurred to you that auburn, aka running back U, hasn't needed to pass the ball much?
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:06 am to Irons Puppet
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QB that throws for 179 yards in his biggest game of the year should not be in the conversation.
He also threw for 70% and 3 TDs and no INTs in the LSU game, but why would we want to look at the whole picture right?
And why is the LSU game now considered the biggest game? In the first "biggest game" of the year, when his team required it, he threw for 334 yards, 4 TDs and no INTs, again on 70% passing.
I'm not saying McCarron should win it. I would probably vote for Manziel again, but to say that McCarron shouldn't be in the conversation because he only threw for 179 yards against LSU is shortsighted and silly.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:10 am to RTR America
you'll have to give 2 back for cheating
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:19 am to Nortizzle
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As it occurred to you that auburn, aka running back U, hasn't needed to pass the ball much?
Really? That didn't stop them from doing it in 2010. Wonder why they're not doing it now?
They're averaging the same rushing yardage as they did in 2010.Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:26 am to Beer Bryant
Sooooooo....national championship?
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:27 am to Beer Bryant
quote:33rd in the country in passing rating. 119th in attempts per game (20.4). And in 2010... Auburn was 113th in passing attempts per game (21.1).
Really? That didn't stop them from doing it in 2010. Wonder why they're not doing it now?
quote:Math is hard.
They're averaging the same rushing yardage as they did in 2010.
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 8:31 am
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:28 am to RTR America
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Hate this argument
Agree, but some folks will vote for JFF bc he and Evans are difference makers for them.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:32 am to makersmark1
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Agree, but some folks will vote for JFF bc he and Evans are difference makers for them.
they are the whole team.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:33 am to joeyb147
Boom. Roasted. STATSSTATSSTATSSTATSSTATS.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:35 am to makersmark1
Guys there's no debate the award is JFFs.
I'm not sure why you morons talk about total yards and TDs. Do I care if McCaron threw for 600 yards or 200 against Georgia State?
Do I care if JFF had 7 combined TDs against New Mexico State? Oh look Marriota has shiny numbers! Then he plays one real defense and proves why he shouldn't have been in the conversation to begin with.
If AJ was a heisman worthy QB Bama would have jumped out to a big lead in the 1st Quarter after LSU had 2 turnovers. Sure he's a great QB and fits Bama's offense well, but he's not on JFF's level.
Who cares if Colt Brennan throws for 70 Tds in a season if he can't throw for 1 against UGA what's it matter?
Complete game stats are honestly a horrible indicator of a player's abilities. That's like saying Bama's #2 RB is better than the #1 because for the game they average more yards per carry...
I'm not sure why you morons talk about total yards and TDs. Do I care if McCaron threw for 600 yards or 200 against Georgia State?
Do I care if JFF had 7 combined TDs against New Mexico State? Oh look Marriota has shiny numbers! Then he plays one real defense and proves why he shouldn't have been in the conversation to begin with.
If AJ was a heisman worthy QB Bama would have jumped out to a big lead in the 1st Quarter after LSU had 2 turnovers. Sure he's a great QB and fits Bama's offense well, but he's not on JFF's level.
Who cares if Colt Brennan throws for 70 Tds in a season if he can't throw for 1 against UGA what's it matter?
Complete game stats are honestly a horrible indicator of a player's abilities. That's like saying Bama's #2 RB is better than the #1 because for the game they average more yards per carry...
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:36 am to ChoadieMcSmalls
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:42 am to EKG
JFF is the best college football player hands down not even close. Winston behind him.
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