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re: The reasons Bielema will fail at Arkansas

Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:17 pm to
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Ya don't say? You mean his record against bad teams was better than his record against good teams?


Yeah, thats not what I meant and you know it.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:20 pm to
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LINK


That's an outlier after a 3-9 season. Why don't you link some other seasons?
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:22 pm to
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Your offense actually requires MORE talent than spreads do to run effectively.


LOL no.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:23 pm to
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Yeah, thats not what I meant and you know it.


What did you mean then?
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:23 pm to
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He couldnt recruit at Wisky,

?

bert had more players he recruited drafted into the NFL this year than every coach in the SEC not named les miles or nick saban LINK
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:23 pm to
USCe has out recruited Arky and Wisky the last three years, FWIW.
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted by gohogs141
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:25 pm to
Funny how no one was complaining about his recruiting when he was near the top in the NCAA in sending players to the NFL just a few years ago

You don't think its obvious last year wasn't all a coaching problem when we lost to rutgers, the type of team he regularly beat in the big 10?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:26 pm to
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That's an outlier after a 3-9 season. Why don't you link some other seasons?


2013

LINK

2012

LINK

2011

LINK

2010

LINK

Should I keep going?
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:27 pm to
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Big 10

Indiana, Purdue, Minnesota, Northwestern, etc. arent walking through the door the SEC West.

no but Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Mizzou, and Texas A&M will be

sure we may not be able to beat lsu every year or not beat bama ever. but there's plenty of other teams in the SEC that I like our chances against
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:27 pm to
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LOL no.


Why do you think almost every small program runs the spread, air raid or triple option?

Its because they dont have the talent to effectively play traditional offense.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:29 pm to
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no but Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Mizzou, and Texas A&M will be


A&M would have won the Big 10 in 2012, and MSU and Ole Miss both are significant upgrades over half the Big 10.

And Mizzu is in the East.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:31 pm to
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What did you mean then?


He made a name for himself largely beating sub-.500 teams from the midwest.
This post was edited on 6/8/14 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:32 pm to
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bert had more players he recruited drafted into the NFL this year than every coach in the SEC not named les miles or nick saban LINK


This has nothing to do with recruiting.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:33 pm to
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This has nothing to do with recruiting.

NFL draft pick worthy talent >>>>> high school stars fwiw
Posted by gohogs141
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:36 pm to
So you think recruiting well but not putting them in the NFL is better than not ''recruiting'' well and putting boatloads of them in to the league?

By that logic give me the shittiest recruiting class you can find!
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:38 pm to
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NFL draft pick worthy talent >>>>> high school stars fwiw


This is player development, an entirely separate issue.

And before you jump on the "he developed players so well" angle, I never denied that. I said that wont translate to the SEC.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:40 pm to
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So you think recruiting well but not putting them in the NFL is better than not ''recruiting'' well and putting boatloads of them in to the league?



Shitty recruiting and developing average talent can work in the Big 10. It wont work in the SEC because the other teams are SO much more talented, the gap is too wide to make up.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:44 pm to
Rivals?

Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:48 pm to
Would you like 247, scout or ESPN? They all tell the same story.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 6/8/14 at 3:50 pm to
He can't win in the SEC. The only reason that matters.
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