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re: The Malzahn running QB myth
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:38 am to MrAUTigers
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:38 am to MrAUTigers
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Les Miles took over a program that Nick Saban had built.
Now you've done it
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:38 am to VerlanderBEAST
Why did the OP not go up to 2014 and keep out 2010?
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:39 am to lsufball19
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How many years had he been a HC before he got to LSU?
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that wasn't the question
Actually it was. His statement was that Gus' record the first three years of being a HC is second to none.
So, I took it to mean as a HC anywhere. Not sure what's to argue. Malzahn has done an excellent job at Auburn.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:39 am to The Spleen
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I don't recall them getting much pre-season hype, and Barber has looked decent enough in the games I've watched(did not see the LSU game.) From what I saw, the OL has not lived up to pre-season hype. They actually looked terrible in the JSU game, especially the LT.
I've seen all of their games. The offensive line looks fine. It is the vacant quarterback who doesn't know where to go with the football and is inaccurate on the easy reads that is causing them problems.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:41 am to therick711
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It is the vacant quarterback who doesn't know where to go with the football and is inaccurate on the easy reads that is causing them problems.
Well yeah, that's obvious. The post I responded to was talking about their running game. The entire offense has been bad, but from what I've seen Barber looks like a solid RB to build the running game around. The OL hasn't given him much help though, nor has the passing game.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:41 am to MrAUTigers
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He took over a shite show at Auburn.
clearly not. I don't care who you are (Nick Saban 2007), you can't make it to a national title game without a lot of talent in place.
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..........and you are wanting to discredit what Malzahn has done, as a HC, for THREE years.
All anyone is doing is discrediting Malzahn has having earned the reputation to be viewed as an elite coach. The guy as a lot to prove and unless he turns things around this year, nothing is going to change in that regard.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 10:44 am
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:41 am to jvilletiger25
quote:How many NC does he have?
Malzahn has a better winning percentage than $aban did his first three years of being a HC, gumpdyke
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:41 am to AUtigerNOLA
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Now you've done it
No one even cares about this.
Gus took over a program that Hugh Freeze built and parlayed it into a program that Gene Chizik built. See how wonderfully irrelevant that is?
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:43 am to DawgsLife
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So, I took it to mean as a HC anywhere. Not sure what's to argue.
this was his question:
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How many years has Les been at LSU and how many years has Gus been at Auburn?
I took it to mean comparing their careers at LSU and Auburn.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:45 am to lsufball19
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Three straight one and done coaches won the Sun Belt with Arkansas St, Malzahn being sandwiched in the middle, so I guess we're supposed to give Malzahn more credit for doing that than the job Miles did at a Big 12 school that hadn't won a conference championship since 1976 and that had 1 winning season in the 12 years prior to his arrival (3-8 the year prior).
I just want to point out that young kids now don't understand how shitty OSU was. It is probably the greatest credit to Miles' career that young guys who post on message boards now think that OSU was always a program to contend with than anything he has done since. What he did at OSU is probably his best accomplishment as a head coach.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:48 am to VerlanderBEAST
Definitely a myth. I know it is because they lost 5 games with a running quarterback last year.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:48 am to therick711
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I just want to point out that young kids now don't understand how shitty OSU was. It is probably the greatest credit to Miles' career that young guys who post on message boards now think that OSU was always a program to contend with than anything he has done since. What he did at OSU is probably his best accomplishment as a head coach.
yep, maybe Barry Sanders has something to do with it, i don't know. They went 10-2 his junior year, and then proceeded to have that streak of terribleness. They actually had a winless season a few years after his departure. It was a dreadful program.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 10:50 am
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:59 am to VerlanderBEAST
I always thought Gus was great at matching his QB's strengths to the team - that is, if he can run, run. If he was a better passer, pass.
Somethings happened over the past year to him.
I think he needs to back off and let his coordinators handle things - he is micromanaging the hell out of the team on Saturdays.
Somethings happened over the past year to him.
I think he needs to back off and let his coordinators handle things - he is micromanaging the hell out of the team on Saturdays.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:40 am to therick711
quote:This X 100000000
I just want to point out that young kids now don't understand how shitty OSU was. It is probably the greatest credit to Miles' career that young guys who post on message boards now think that OSU was always a program to contend with than anything he has done since. What he did at OSU is probably his best accomplishment as a head coach.
What Miles was able to accomplish at OSU was phenominal.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 11:42 am to Bham4Tide
quote:He may need to micromanage the S&C program a little more than he has been. Because JaxState and LSU blew AU off the line all day long.
I always thought Gus was great at matching his QB's strengths to the team - that is, if he can run, run. If he was a better passer, pass. Somethings happened over the past year to him. I think he needs to back off and let his coordinators handle things - he is micromanaging the hell out of the team on Saturdays.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:01 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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06 Mustain/Dick combined -32 rushing yards (McFadden, Jones, Hillis, D MAC threw 7 TDs in his career and ran the wild hog LOT)
07 Paul Smith 119 rushing yards (not SEC)
08 David Johnson 186 rushing yards (not SEC)
09 Chris Todd -116 rushing yards (only one I'd give you)
11 Trotter/Moseley combined -19 rushing yards (awful)
So in your only good year in the SEC with a non running QB, or ridiculous RB stable that made the RB a QB on certain plays, you finished 8-5 overall and 3-5 in SEC play.
No thank you for making us realize just how Gus is in the SEC when he doesn't have an elite dual threat or 2 first round RBs and a NFL 1000 yard fullback on the same team.
I mean shite man, look at what Bret did at Wisconsin and now what he does in the SEC. The SEC is a whole different animal.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:07 pm to therick711
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I just want to point out that young kids now don't understand how shitty OSU was. It is probably the greatest credit to Miles' career that young guys who post on message boards now think that OSU was always a program to contend with than anything he has done since. What he did at OSU is probably his best accomplishment as a head coach.
Nah bro. Miles is a goober who only wins with Saban's players and because LSU is in such a hotbed of talent.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 1:25 pm to TigerPaw1
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So, if I understand. Malzahn doesn't need running QBs. But if he doesn't, he has to have a combo like McFadden and Jones, who probably took close to as many snaps from the wildcat as the QBs did that year (kinda makes you have a running QB disguised as a running back doesnt it), or elite level passers for their competition, or be coaching against other high school coaches in CUSA. Otherwise, they are "meh". So, someone who runs from the QB position or be playing crap competition. Got it.
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