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re: The Malzahn running QB myth
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:12 am to jvilletiger25
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:12 am to jvilletiger25
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Malzahn has a better winning percentage than $aban did his first three years of being a HC, gumpdyke
well that settles that, I guess Malzahn is a better coach than Saban
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:12 am to lsufball19
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I guess you also forgot Les has been to the national championship game twice as a head coach, and he actually won one of those. He's also been to the SECCG three times, winning twice. It's also funny you're using Malzahn's title game appearance at Arkansas St as if that's on equal footing as the Big 12 and SEC.
That's what I get for quick wikipedia search
Still I think it's really dumb to say a coach in his 4th year sucks when said coach has won 2 conference titles & a national title. Sure one was C-USA but still means he beat his competition.
Also I think Les is a great coach which was the point I was trying to get at. On paper Les doesn't have much more hardware than Gus & has been coaching for a lot longer. Now if this season is a reflection of what Gus develops as a HC then we can call him shitty but there just isn't enough proof of that now
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:14 am to TigerPaw1
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Still I think it's really dumb to say a coach in his 4th year sucks when said coach has won 2 conference titles & a national title. Sure one was C-USA but still means he beat his competition.
I don't think Gus sucks, but he still has a lot to prove, and all the talk of him being one of the best coaches in the country after 2013 were extremely premature.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:14 am to lsufball19
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I guess you also forgot Les has been to the national championship game twice as a head coach, and he actually won one of those. Gus has been once and lost. Miles has also been to the conference championship game three times, winning twice.
How many years has Les been at LSU and how many years has Gus been at Auburn?
ETA Gus' HC resume, in his first three years as a HC, is second to none. There is no other way to spin it.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 10:16 am
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:16 am to MrAUTigers
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How many years has Les been at LSU and how many years has Gus been at Auburn?
Les was in the SEC title game twice in his first 3 years at LSU and won a national title his 3rd year. He won a BCS bowl game the year he qualified for neither.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:18 am to TigerPaw1
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Sure one was C-USA but still means he beat his competition.
You're still wrong. The conference title he won as a head man is a sun belt title. There was no championship game for it, and he did not coach the StAte bowl game.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 10:20 am
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:19 am to MrAUTigers
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ETA Gus' HC resume, in his first three years as a HC, is second to none
Larry Coker says whats up.
year 1: National Title
year 2: Lost in OT of national title game
year 3: won orange Bowl
record in first 3 years: 35-3, 3 conference titles, 1 national title, 1 nationa runner-up, 3 BCS bowl appearances, 2 BCS bowl wins
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 10:19 am
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:19 am to lsufball19
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Les was in the SEC title game twice in his first 3 years at LSU and won a national title his 3rd year. He won a BCS bowl game the year he qualified for neither.
How many years had he been a HC before he got to LSU?
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:19 am to MrAUTigers
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How many years had he been a HC before he got to LSU?
that wasn't the question
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:20 am to MrAUTigers
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How many years had he been a HC before he got to LSU?
Four years. You know you can google these things?
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:22 am to lsufball19
Only on the SEC rant would people unironically compare starting your coaching odyssey as a head coach in the sun belt with starting it with a disaster level team in a BCS/Power 5 conference. Drawing that kind of equivalence is so incredibly funny, it makes everything after it irrelevant.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:23 am to lsufball19
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that wasn't the question
The point is Gus has been a HC in the college game for three years. He has two Conference Championships in those three years. Hell, he was a HS coach just 10 years ago.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:24 am to MrAUTigers
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The point is Gus has been a HC in the college game for three years. He has two Conference Championships in those three years. Hell, he was a HS coach just 10 years ago.
He did worse than Hugh Freeze did.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:30 am to therick711
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He did worse than Hugh Freeze did.
Explain.
I would love to hear this. This one is actually my favorite....
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Only on the SEC rant would people unironically compare starting your coaching odyssey as a head coach in the sun belt with starting it with a disaster level team in a BCS/Power 5 conference. Drawing that kind of equivalence is so incredibly funny, it makes everything after it irrelevant.
You do realize Gus took a BCS/power5 team, that had gone winless in the SEC, to an SEC Championship.....and to the NC game, in year one.....don't you?
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:34 am to therick711
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He did worse than Hugh Freeze did.
Three straight one and done coaches won the Sun Belt with Arkansas St, Malzahn being sandwiched in the middle, so I guess we're supposed to give Malzahn more credit for doing that than the job Miles did at a Big 12 school that hadn't won a conference championship since 1976 and that had 1 winning season in the 12 years prior to his arrival (3-8 the year prior).
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:36 am to MrAUTigers
Boy, talk about being really bad at this. You continue to shift the focus to try and make yourself look clever. Auburn won a national title three seasons before he took over.
Les Miles on the other hand took over a team that had one winning record in 12 seasons.
Look at their records in conference, Hugh was better.
Les Miles on the other hand took over a team that had one winning record in 12 seasons.
Look at their records in conference, Hugh was better.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:36 am to MrAUTigers
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He did worse than Hugh Freeze did.
Explain. I would love to hear this.
This one is actually my favorite....
Freeze had a better overall record and a better conference record than Malzahn at Arkansas St in their one year there
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:36 am to lsufball19
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Three straight one and done coaches won the Sun Belt with Arkansas St, Malzahn being sandwiched in the middle, so I guess we're supposed to give Malzahn more credit for doing that than the job Miles did at a Big 12 school that hadn't won a conference championship since 1976 and that had 1 winning season in the 12 years prior to his arrival (3-8 the year prior).
..........and you are wanting to discredit what Malzahn has done, as a HC, for THREE years. He took over a shite show at Auburn. Les Miles took over a program that Nick Saban had built.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:38 am to saint amant steve
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Barber, Thomas, and Robinson have done Johnson no favors thus far. None of them appear to have lived up to their pre-season hype.
I don't recall them getting much pre-season hype, and Barber has looked decent enough in the games I've watched(did not see the LSU game.) From what I saw, the OL has not lived up to pre-season hype. They actually looked terrible in the JSU game, especially the LT.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:38 am to MrAUTigers
I think Gus is a terrific coach. Your defense of him is strange and bad. What he did at StAte is irrelevant. What he did at Auburn has been pretty good. He needs to get the ship righted. If Auburn is patient, he will bring their level back up. The west is just a bear. There isn't time to let it gel. Happened to LSU last year.
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