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re: The first year of the "playoff" is in serious jeopardy
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:39 pm to Crimson Legend
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:39 pm to Crimson Legend
So, it was okay for 2 SEC teams to make playoffs, but 2 from Big 12 is not acceptable. One big Saturday to go....things could change.
Big 12 May not have Conf champ game, but they play every team in the conference. They think the SEC has it easier for playing one less regular conference game. I think it is a wash.
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:40 pm to bmy
Forgetting records -
the 4 best teams right now are exactly how they have them ranked.
You could argue 4 and 5 should be flipped -
After that - I don't know...everyone else is pretty much the same.
the 4 best teams right now are exactly how they have them ranked.
You could argue 4 and 5 should be flipped -
After that - I don't know...everyone else is pretty much the same.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:40 pm to bmy
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You can't seriously think that a 12-1 conference champion should be jumped by a 10-2 SEC team Ridiculous.
you must have big 10 ties, is all I can think. I think there are several teams in the SEC with worse records than 10-2, that would beat the best of the big 10. Who in the hell do they have in that conference worth a shite? Seriously? Wisconsin is solid, I guess.....I find it comical you are arguing this...like I said, you must have big 10 ties....no one in their right mind outside of big 10 fans think the big 10 is worth a crap.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:40 pm to Sarcastro
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At least one ranter is consistent.
I'm not sure if that's supposed to be an insult or a compliment. I don't troll THAT much do I?
Perhaps it's time I cut back on it.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:41 pm to Bogie00
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Big 12 May not have Conf champ game, but they play every team in the conference. They think the SEC has it easier for playing one less regular conference game. I think it is a wash.
LOL...a wash....I guess you can say that if you are in the East. If you are in the West....good lord it's not a wash.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:42 pm to bmy
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You can't seriously think that a 12-1 conference champion should be jumped by a 10-2 SEC team Ridiculous
This is exactly why the system fails. That 12-1 conference team is only getting in because of their record, not their resume. Nobody would put money on Ohio State going 12-1 in the SEC West. So comparing records is apples to oranges.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:43 pm to Crimson Legend
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TCU or Baylor? Conference champ with victory over other contender, or conference champ with pathetic resume?
Didn't the Big12 say they would let the committee decide who is the conference champ?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:44 pm to TeLeFaWx
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If Alabama is capable of losing to Ole Miss, they are definitely capable of losing to Mizzou.
Texas A&M shows evidence of this claim. Support.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:44 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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but it's not like they don't know that they need to schedule good teams OOC since the conference, well, blows, despite the fact they owned the East Saturday...lol
Look at the SEC from an outsider's perspective. Half of the conference lost at least one OOC game and the team Bama is playing in the SEC title game lost to Indiana. All of the traditional powers besides Alabama look somewhere between horrible and average and the Mississippi schools are beating up on everyone. That does not scream dominance to me.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:45 pm to Bogie00
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So, it was okay for 2 SEC teams to make playoffs, but 2 from Big 12 is not acceptable.
I've been saying since this playoff system was invented that the SEC would not get two teams in. The fact that the West teams beat each other up may make it harder to get in the playoff, but it doesn't prove that the division was easier or that there are no good teams.
I don't believe there is a team out there, other than possible Oregon (and not sure there), who would be easy favorites over ANY SEC West team. I wouldn't be shocked if Arkansas beat FSU or TCU or Baylor.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:46 pm to Monticello
Seven of Baylor's eleven games so far have been against teams with losing records. Four of the Big 12's ten teams have losing records. There are two teams with losing records in the SEC. Baylor just barely beat a horrible Texas Tech team. Baylor does not deserve to go to the playoffs.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:48 pm to Monticello
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All of the traditional powers besides Alabama look somewhere between horrible and average
Again, you are talking about the East....Most of the West would beat any school out of the Big 10. Hell, LSU already beat Wisconsin, back when LSU was really bad. LSU today is light years ahead of where they were back then....you should know, they dominated your arse everywhere except the score.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:49 pm to Sarcastro
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Baylor does not deserve to go to the playoffs.
I think they deserve it more than TCU. If you play the same schedule, have the same record, and beat someone head to head, that should be considered a playoff game.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:53 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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gain, you are talking about the East.
Which is 7 teams....half of the entire conference. You would not allow any other conference to so quickly deflect so hold the SEC to the same standard.
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Most of the West would beat any school out of the Big 10. Hell, LSU already beat Wisconsin, back when LSU was really bad. LSU today is light years ahead of where they were back then....you should know, they dominated your arse everywhere except the score.
And Wisconsin dominated LSU's arse in every way but the score. What's your point? I don't disagree that most of the West would beat any Big Ten team, but this is the wrong year to be arguing that the SEC is miles ahead of every other conference. Our OOC record does not back that claim up.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:54 pm to Monticello
i'm just waiting for all crap to break out
tOSU losing (possible with new QB)
Oregon losing (possible, 'Zona already beat them)
FSU losing (possible, Ga Tech's option)
Baylor losing (possible, K-State)
'Bama losing (the most unlikely thing on this list)
tOSU losing (possible with new QB)
Oregon losing (possible, 'Zona already beat them)
FSU losing (possible, Ga Tech's option)
Baylor losing (possible, K-State)
'Bama losing (the most unlikely thing on this list)
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:56 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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If Alabama is capable of losing to Mizzou, they're capable of losing to Indiana, thus capable of losing to the entire Big 10.
Alabama would go winless in the entire Big 10?
This. I don't know why so many fans employ the association fallacy. Here's another example of why this kind of reasoning is faulty.
Mizzou lost to Indiana. Indiana lost to Bowling Green. Bowling Green lost to Western Kentucky. Western Kentucky lost to UAB. UAB lost to FIU. FIU lost to Bethune-Cookman. Bethune-Cookman lost to Hampton. Hampton went 3-9 in the FCS' MEAC. Thus it follows that Missouri would have a worse record than 3-9 in the MEAC.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:57 pm to Crimson Legend
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Posted by Crimson Legend
If Alabama loses to Missouri, it's all chaos.
Dude get a grip. We win on Saturday. If we cant do that, we dont deserve it. Quit being a bitch and RMFT! Aight?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:01 pm to rmftrtr
If Mizzou wins I think they are in.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:04 pm to Crimson Legend
If Missouri wins the SEC, the conference deserves to be left out of the playoff. Indiana found a way to beat Missouri, and I'm sure Bama will as well.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:05 pm to bmy
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Problem solved? No chaos necessary. In general, undefeated teams should be above defeated teams. Teams defeated once should be above teams defeated twice.
No. Someone with a top 10 schedule with 1 more loss than a team with a top 50 schedule should be recognized.
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