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re: Tennessee could be ineligible for bowl games in 2014 due to APR
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:04 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:04 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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@ClayTravisBGID: Past three years of Vol football APR: 921, 934, 909. Unless Vols get a 956 in 12-13, team won't be eligible for 2014 bowl
And I'm sure CT took great joy in tweeting that.
But Tennessee will probably not be eligible for a bowl in 2014 regardless of whatever nefarious shite they do, again, to bring their scores up to par.
So if they are not eligible, does it carry over to 2015? Hmmmmmmm
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Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:13 pm to scrooster
Quit embarrassing yourself you senile, geriatric frick.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:16 pm to scrooster
They have at least Oklahoma, UGA, USCe, UF & Bama (with Vandy at 50-50) in '14... That's 5 auto-losses & a toss-up before the '14 season starts, 6 wins might be tough...
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:16 pm to InVolNerable
The thing that will hurt Tennessee more than being ineligible for a bowl game they were not going to have a good enough record to make anyway, would be the potential in lost practice time, that would carry over to recruiting by not being able to sale recruits on playing time while being competitive.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:24 pm to InVolNerable
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Quit embarrassing yourself you senile, geriatric frick.
Damn, new life. Right when I was thinking about mixing another drink.
I may have to go read some month old Jimmie Hyams columns to reload - oh wait, y'all already fired Jenny Wright a few weeks ago.
I'm sure Butch can find another slut somewhere in the department to put-out for grades. I mean we can all see how well schooled Albert Haynesworth was, and turned-out to be, while driving around in his new Escalade back in the day.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 5:28 pm to scrooster
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So if they are not eligible, does it carry over to 2015? Hmmmmmmm
It's a running average of the previous 4 years, I believe. Tennessee's last 3 years of 921, 934, 909 and this year's 924 equals an average of 922, which is over the current requirement of 920. But next year, the requirement goes up to 930. The oldest score of 921 will drop out, and the 12-13 score will go into the average. If they don't score a 956 for the 12-13 year, their 4-year average would be below the required 930.
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:25 pm to semotruman
I am sure we will figure out a way to get an exemption to the rule, just not fair to go and change the standards on us
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:32 pm to Wishnitwas1998
Yes, because the standards were only changed on UT football and no one else. What an atrocity.
P.S.- Here's the definition of atrocity for all the UT fans and athletes out there:
Atrocity Definition
P.S.- Here's the definition of atrocity for all the UT fans and athletes out there:
Atrocity Definition
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:36 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
wow this makes Dooley look even worse if that's possible. I mean really?
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:37 pm to Crompdaddy8
They have to qualify for a bowl game before they need to be worried about being ineligible to play in one
If you know what I mean...........
If you know what I mean...........
Posted on 6/11/13 at 6:55 pm to blackoutdore
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Yes, because the standards were only changed on UT football and no one else. What an atrocity.
Dude I was jokin
Posted on 6/11/13 at 7:08 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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Tennessee could be ineligible for bowl games in 2014 due to APR
Won't matter. They will make themselves bowl ineligible on the field
Posted on 6/11/13 at 7:22 pm to MaroonNation
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They have to qualify for a bowl game before they need to be worried about being ineligible to play in one
If you know what I mean...........
Congratulations on being the 15th person to use that joke. I think that is considered quick-witted for an MSU fan though.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 7:22 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
I don't see what the big deal is. Like we were going to a bowl some time in the next decade anyway. Sheesh. Am I the 16th person to make this joke?
This post was edited on 6/11/13 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 6/11/13 at 7:44 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Not a fair punishment. You gonna punish a kid in a wheelchair from running?
Posted on 6/11/13 at 7:49 pm to GoBigOrange86
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I don't see what the big deal is. Like we were going to a bowl some time in the next decade anyway. Sheesh. Am I the 16th person to make this joke?
There is no big deal either way. Apparently GPA doesn't even matter beyond the bare minimum when calculating APR. It's all about attrition and basic eligibility. And attrition is what's dinged our APR.
Here's how it works:
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A perfect score is 1000.
The scores are calculated as follows: Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one retention point for staying in school and one eligibility point for being academically eligible. A team’s total points are divided by the points possible and then multiplied by one thousand to equal the team’s Academic Progress Rate score.
Example: A Division I Football Bowl Subdivision team awards the full complement of 85 grants-in-aid. If 80 student-athletes remain in school and academically eligible, three remain in school but are academically ineligible and two drop out academically ineligible, the team earns 163 of 170 possible points for that term. Divide 163 by 170 and multiply by 1,000 to determine that the team’s Academic Progress Rate for that term is 959.
IOW, raising the APR shouldn't be a problem and the instability of the program itself is what hurt our APR to begin with and above all else. It's rather insane that this is considered an academic measure given that a 2.0 matters no more than a 4.0.
That said, last semester's team GPA at 2.8 that Butch and company presided over is miles ahead of Dooley's 2.08 and shows how badly Dooley lost control of the team.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 8:03 pm to Prof
The attrition from Kiffin's tenure is clearly still having an effect. I'm not particularly worried going forward. Butch Jones is doing a great job so far, I have no reason to think the academics won't be righted.
Posted on 6/11/13 at 8:17 pm to GoBigOrange86
There's really no reason to be, especially since Jones has widely been known as player's coach in terms of being able to build relationships. Since half your score is determined by simply keeping the kid in school whether he's failing or not and not running a player off by being an A-1 pr1ck it's a major upgrade over both Kiffin and Dooley (both had issues with handling players but in different ways). The other half of the score is simply making them meet the bare minimum and Jones has a history of producing overachievers.
The way APR works and how messed up it is has been highlighted in men's basketball where kids get drafted early or are looking at the draft and simply stop attending class once the season ends. Syracuse got hit hard by that.
Heck one of the reasons so many schools are begging retired pros to come back and graduate is that you can get points for that!
The way APR works and how messed up it is has been highlighted in men's basketball where kids get drafted early or are looking at the draft and simply stop attending class once the season ends. Syracuse got hit hard by that.
Heck one of the reasons so many schools are begging retired pros to come back and graduate is that you can get points for that!
Posted on 6/12/13 at 7:42 am to DaleDenton
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now he is building his own program that will reap what would have been UT's success.
Woo Hoo...go Bucs.
Posted on 6/12/13 at 7:46 am to DaleDenton
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The thing that will hurt Tennessee more than being ineligible for a bowl game they were not going to have a good enough record to make anyway, would be the potential in lost practice time,
that would carry over to recruiting by not being able to sale recruits on playing time while being competitive.
Kinda like what Arkansas is experiencing this year.
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