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re: Tennessee & Virginia attorney generals have filed suit against the ncaa
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:25 am to 1999
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:25 am to 1999
So now literally any rule that "restricts" a player doing or getting anything is an "antitrust violation?"
The courts are killing college football, not the NCAA.
The courts are killing college football, not the NCAA.
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Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:25 am to 1999
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:32 am to 1999
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The states of Tennessee and Virginia request immediate suspension of all NCAA NIL rule enforcement.
Wait, what?
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:17 am to smash williams
Donde just bent the NCAA over the CONFERENCE table and shoved their own dildo up their arse.
Pulling in UVA and working with the two State AG's, she took the fight out of the UT specific action and crossed it over to potentially cover all NCAA adjudication processes.
As a quasi-judicial process, a variation of the fairness doctrine is now in play. With the inclusion of the State AG's and UVA any claim of "for the bebifit of the students" has been pushed off of the table and relaced with full legal processes. The NCAA will have to show they are going after anyone who does not adhere to the strict rules of process or they have no teeth on a specific chosen target. Equal application of the "laws" or no application of the laws type of argument. ALso timing of when the rules were established and appropriate time allowed to amend a system of compliance any time a rules change has been inacted.
Donde put the NCAA in a full defensive posture. Well done Donde!
Pulling in UVA and working with the two State AG's, she took the fight out of the UT specific action and crossed it over to potentially cover all NCAA adjudication processes.
As a quasi-judicial process, a variation of the fairness doctrine is now in play. With the inclusion of the State AG's and UVA any claim of "for the bebifit of the students" has been pushed off of the table and relaced with full legal processes. The NCAA will have to show they are going after anyone who does not adhere to the strict rules of process or they have no teeth on a specific chosen target. Equal application of the "laws" or no application of the laws type of argument. ALso timing of when the rules were established and appropriate time allowed to amend a system of compliance any time a rules change has been inacted.
Donde put the NCAA in a full defensive posture. Well done Donde!
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:17 am to 1999
It high time we end this corrupt organization that has gotten rich off the backs of student athletes for decades. Never pick a fight with a Tennessean.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:20 am to 8nojoke
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Tennessee has multiple billionaires living in the state. Alabama by contrast only has one.
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Billionaires don't become billionaires by spending money foolishly. I have a rich uncle, that don't mean he is going to contributes to my gambling habit.
One of Tennessee's Billionaires was captain of the '51 Tennessee National Championship team...so, if your rich uncle analogy to your gambling addiction isn't apples to oranges.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:21 am to LewEvansFan
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Wrong
Let's put your thinking cap on for a second. The schools can collectively change the rules now if they don't like them.
And yet they don't change the rules. Using logic, why might this be?
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:26 am to jonnyanony
The NCAA is a shield, something schools concocted to keep government and courts and student athletes from making things less exploitative. And it worked for a really long time.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:55 am to Tw1st3d
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Donde just bent the NCAA over the CONFERENCE table and shoved their own dildo up their arse.
Pulling in UVA and working with the two State AG's, she took the fight out of the UT specific action and crossed it over to potentially cover all NCAA adjudication processes.
As a quasi-judicial process, a variation of the fairness doctrine is now in play. With the inclusion of the State AG's and UVA any claim of "for the bebifit of the students" has been pushed off of the table and relaced with full legal processes. The NCAA will have to show they are going after anyone who does not adhere to the strict rules of process or they have no teeth on a specific chosen target. Equal application of the "laws" or no application of the laws type of argument. ALso timing of when the rules were established and appropriate time allowed to amend a system of compliance any time a rules change has been inacted.
Donde put the NCAA in a full defensive posture. Well done Donde!
Best post in the thread right there.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:56 am to Salty Morton
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:00 pm to jonnyanony
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Let's put your thinking cap on for a second.
That would require thinking. T o many are whining about NIL and that rules need to be created but yet support any effort by the NCAA to enforce any said rules.
And for the ones that want the government to intervene which is what is going to happen it will be worse with no option for litigation once it does. Our government now is a shite show. The last thing i want is for them to be involved in CFB.
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The schools can collectively change the rules now if they don't like them.
This is what people fail to understand. The NCAA only has power because its members which are the schools we all support give it to them. The schools could easily change the rules to be better serve but they have not. Why everyone thinks if UT and UVA fighting the NCAA will do anything when they are part of the group granting them power.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:05 pm to Tw1st3d
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Donde put the NCAA in a full defensive posture. Well done Donde!
Maybe so but in reality she is only grandstanding. The fact is she is upset because UT got singled out for maybe not abiding by the rules that seem now more unclear with the current setting. We will see how this plays out.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:31 pm to TideWarrior
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We will see how this plays out.
I have a question about how/why the information came out in the WSJ? They are not a sports junkie publication nor do they cater to other sports junkies. WSJ caters to the business, legal, corporate, and political world. This had to be a leak of information from the NCAA specifically target the top university brass as some type of proactive warning shot.
When you launch a salvo at that level, you have to expect a legal response from process and political thinkers rather than just specific action thinkers. The NCAA is swinging above their grade and bit off a fight way bigger than their ability to strategically engage.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:34 pm to Lonnie Utah
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FAFO.
Exactly.
Come on, South C'lina. Join the party!
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:35 pm to Tw1st3d
Or it could be a leak internally to create a position to get ahead of it. Maybe Donde knew it was coming and wanted to go on the offensive to generate support.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:35 pm to Tw1st3d
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The NCAA is swinging above their grade and bit off a fight way bigger than their ability to strategically engage.
They don't really have the money to go to trial with this, eiher. They will HAVE to 'negotiate'...for them, right now, the only thing that matters is their survival.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:36 pm to Darth Vol
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The amateur game of college football is dead. It is now a pro league.
The NCAA could fix this today by making all scholarships 3 year binding agreements, requiring a school to release a player before he can play somewhere else. They're pros? Treat them like pros.
Nothing about that would prevent a player from collecting as much NIL money as he can. Nor would it violate the court's mandate that players can earn NIL.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:39 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The NCAA could fix this today by making all scholarships 3 year binding agreements
You can't do that unless it's an employment contract. You have to pay them. With money. And in some states the non-compete may not even be legal.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:40 pm to 1999
Soon college won’t have to pretend the money for recruits is because they are needed inside billboard and tv commercials. No one cares about those fake ads.
Ether ban it, or like a bribe be a bribe.
Ether ban it, or like a bribe be a bribe.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 12:44 pm to nicholastiger
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This doesn't help fix the problems in college athletics.
Define the problem.
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participate in it's not gonna work.
What needs to work? The only fix is that the NCAA buys the NIL rights in total as a condition of being an NCAA student athlete. And the NCAA doesn’t have the money to afford them.
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It should never be about who wants to buy the best team.
TAMU tried it. Ole Miss is trying it now. Not an issue
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Has to be some kind of multi year commitment from player to school in this environment to make it work
Schools are not buying NIL rights and are not party to any agreements. Ergo the schools have no standing to enforce any 3rd party agreements.
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