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re: TCU poster says Miss. St booster has tapes
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:18 am to heartbreakTiger
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:18 am to heartbreakTiger
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a football team not on probation, the basketball team can't be worse than auburn and the baseball team is top 10.
I can agree with you on that. Their baseball team was down to the final four in the CWS this past year I believe.
Not to mention adding the Dallas TV market would be GREAT for SEC tv revenue and recruiting.
Let's do it
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:20 am to heartbreakTiger
Even if they were given the death penalty they would still have a football program, just like SMU. They might suck but they would not be kicked out. They've been in too long and people would be upset over destroying tradition.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:20 am to Bread Orgeron
yep clearly a better option than keeping auburn or getting tamu.
they are a huge market and the baseball team isnt just a one year wonder
they are a huge market and the baseball team isnt just a one year wonder
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:21 am to heehaw
they would be a drain on the conference though at some point them being a drain would outweigh tradition.
auburn just isn't good enough in other sports and a less than half full stadium in football and team that can't go to bowl game for 5 years and wont make another one for 25 years is just getting to much of the money pie in the sec for its contributions
auburn just isn't good enough in other sports and a less than half full stadium in football and team that can't go to bowl game for 5 years and wont make another one for 25 years is just getting to much of the money pie in the sec for its contributions
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:23 am to heartbreakTiger
also a 2 win auburn will hurt the conference sos plus if they ever get good again we will know they are cheating. traditions have to die at some point and this is the point for auburn its time for them to join sewanee. its tcu time in the sec
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:25 am to heartbreakTiger
They wouldnt put that much of a strain on the SEC. There are still plenty of other good teams in the conference and with the SEC's current TV deals it would be even less of a strain.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:26 am to heehaw
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people would be upset over destroying tradition.
psh
You think the SEC really cares about "tradition"? If it came down to realistic talks about booting someone from the conference in favor of another university, the almighty dollar would win out over "tradition". And TCU, with the Dallas/Ft. Worth TV markets, brings a lot more to the table than Auburn as far as money is concerned.
They would never boot someone from the conference without probable cause. But if there was enough evidence that paying players and all that was an epidemic at Auburn, they'd be justified in kicking them out. Especially if they have no football team for a couple of years... football is the biggest money maker in this conference and in this country, so it would be detrimental to the conference if one of its members was not allowed to field a football team. They'd be holding us back, so we'd have to cut the cord.
This post was edited on 11/10/10 at 1:26 am
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:28 am to Bread Orgeron
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And TCU, with the Dallas/Ft. Worth TV markets, brings a lot more to the table than Auburn as far as money is concerned.
I hate to break it to you, but people in DFW doesn't give a shite about TCU.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:28 am to Bread Orgeron
But there is no evidence, much less allegations, that paying players is an epidemic at Auburn. The only player that has been accused of being paid is Newton.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:30 am to heehaw
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But there is no evidence, much less allegations, that paying players is an epidemic at Auburn
I know and I never said that it was. But that would be grounds for booting someone from the conference. I'm just giving a hypothetical.
I definitely don't think they should be kicked just because of Camgate. No way
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:30 am to heehaw
being caught cheating for the 8th time is indication that they will do it again and again plus this isn't all said and done just yet.
also i dont see why LSU,bama and uf would be ok with auburn leeching off of their profits with no chance for auburn to even had to the pot.
also i dont see why LSU,bama and uf would be ok with auburn leeching off of their profits with no chance for auburn to even had to the pot.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:31 am to attheua
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Oregon/TCU for it all
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:31 am to Bread Orgeron
im leaning toward what coonassbulldog said i think this is only the start for auburn. if it goes beyond camgate this being their 8th time around could lead to more than what happened to usc.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:33 am to e2drummer
I hate to break it to you, but you obviously weren't paying attention during the conference expansion talks. It's not how many people are tuning in, it's to how many TVs you could potentially be broadcasting your product. And in the case of DFW vs. Auburn, there are many more TVs in Dallas.
It doesn't matter if anybody is actually watching the games, it's the fact that the SEC could go and say to networks like ESPN "hey you get to broadcast our product in the DFW market" which is a lot more attractive than the Auburn/Opelika market. The conference gets paid whether they watch the games or not.
It doesn't matter if anybody is actually watching the games, it's the fact that the SEC could go and say to networks like ESPN "hey you get to broadcast our product in the DFW market" which is a lot more attractive than the Auburn/Opelika market. The conference gets paid whether they watch the games or not.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:35 am to heartbreakTiger
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im leaning toward what coonassbulldog said i think this is only the start for auburn. if it goes beyond camgate this being their 8th time around could lead to more than what happened to usc.
Yeah I definitely wouldn't be surprised with a repeat offender like this.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:35 am to Bread Orgeron
I'm from DFW and there is no fricking way you steal viewers from Texas or OU and get them to watch TCU. It just won't happen.
edit: and yes viewer ratings matter.
edit: and yes viewer ratings matter.
This post was edited on 11/10/10 at 1:36 am
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:38 am to heartbreakTiger
How exactly would "auburn leaching off their profits" be any different than Vandy? UK? MSU? None of those teams contribute nearly as much as LSU, Florida, Bama, or Tenn.
All the money SEC teams get from bowls is put together than distributed equally to all 12 teams. The worst teams in the conference already leach off the better teams, so nothing would be changing.
All the money SEC teams get from bowls is put together than distributed equally to all 12 teams. The worst teams in the conference already leach off the better teams, so nothing would be changing.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:40 am to e2drummer
Did you even read my post???? I'll say it again: it's not how many people are actually tuning in to the games, it's how many TVs there are in that market. Period.
Nobody even has to turn their TV on on Saturdays in the fall, the fact that there are that many more people in DFW than there are in Auburn's small TV market is much more attractive to the conference for negotiating television contracts.
The conference expansion talks this past summer were all about TV markets, TV markets, TV markets. And that isn't how many people turn their TV on to the game, it's how many people there are in that market.
The SEC was supposedly considering adding Texas A&M because they add a whole new TV MARKET in Texas, which is currently untapped for the SEC. It would be great for the SEC, with respect to negotiating new TV contracts, to be able to say they have their product in Texas. That's why all those conference expansion talks were so heavily geared towards the addition of A&M and not someone like Florida State. Florida already has that market locked up. That doesn't mean that people in Tallahassee are all watching Florida games, it means the game are broadcast there and ESPN makes money off of them anyways.
Nobody even has to turn their TV on on Saturdays in the fall, the fact that there are that many more people in DFW than there are in Auburn's small TV market is much more attractive to the conference for negotiating television contracts.
The conference expansion talks this past summer were all about TV markets, TV markets, TV markets. And that isn't how many people turn their TV on to the game, it's how many people there are in that market.
The SEC was supposedly considering adding Texas A&M because they add a whole new TV MARKET in Texas, which is currently untapped for the SEC. It would be great for the SEC, with respect to negotiating new TV contracts, to be able to say they have their product in Texas. That's why all those conference expansion talks were so heavily geared towards the addition of A&M and not someone like Florida State. Florida already has that market locked up. That doesn't mean that people in Tallahassee are all watching Florida games, it means the game are broadcast there and ESPN makes money off of them anyways.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:41 am to heehaw
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How exactly would "auburn leaching off their profits" be any different than Vandy? UK? MSU? None of those teams contribute nearly as much as LSU, Florida, Bama, or Tenn.
The difference is those schools actually field teams. Vandy also makes us look better academically. But if Auburn were unable to field a team, they would be nothing but a burden.
Posted on 11/10/10 at 1:41 am to heehaw
they all at least have the chance to contribute plus they are all good at other sports. auburn just isn't and if they were to get the death penalty they wouldn't be competing for a bowl for a long long time.
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