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re: TAMU-wins at Bama in 2012 and AU in 2014
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:37 am to therick711
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:37 am to therick711
We are Farmers and I am fine with being called that.
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Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:40 am to 3andOut
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When it comes to LSU/A&M the past 4 games are all that matter. When it comes to Arky overall record is all that matters
Huh? LSU and Arky have an almost identical winning percentage vs A&M all time
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:41 am to Tornado Alley
Everybody of consequence has a commanding series lead over the Texas Aggies.
For the first 90 years of our existence we were a small military school and played a lot of the big games as visitors.
For the first 90 years of our existence we were a small military school and played a lot of the big games as visitors.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:42 am to Funky Tide 8
This is why people respect aTm more than Mizzou even though Mizzou has won the East twice. Mizzou has no signature wins. When Bama plays aTm, I know that they have the weapons to give us a fight if they play their best. Mizzou has never and will never concern me until they start consistently beating great teams.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:43 am to Funky Tide 8
The wins are good ones, but it makes the 59-0 losses that much more vexing.
When you can win those big games, collapses are inexcusable.
When you can win those big games, collapses are inexcusable.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:45 am to craigbiggio
LSU has a 4 game win streak on A&M currently. A&M had a 5 game win streak on LSU but yall tucked tail and quit playing us. Again, football existed before 2000.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:46 am to piggilicious
Maybe you ought to read up on former Texas A&M Professor Norman Borlaug and stop talking with your mouth full.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:46 am to piggilicious
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they'll tell you it's because when they joined the sec they miraculously got really good overnight- boom bam bing. it has nothing to do with the coaching woes we had there for a few years of course.
That has nothing to do with it.
The reason why the all time record vs Arky is useless as a metric is because Y'ALL were a different program during most of our time in the SWC together (aka most of the alltime) too. Back then y'all were basically what OU is today- Texas's top conference rival and a HUGE draw for Texas recruits.
When yall left the SWC Texas and most SWC teams blacklisted you. It took Arky off the mental map of most Texas recruits, and cut off your only possible pipeline to top 15 signing classes. We didn't play in this post-SWC period for the most part and when we did yall played a historically bad A&M.
But now we are in the same conference together again, and so the Arky program is compared to the A&M program directly as SEC peers. In that comparison the all time record is very deceptive, as Arky hasn't had a top 15 class since 247 started tracking classes while A&M has used the SEC brand to appeal to Texas talent.
Coaching has little to do with it, coaching changes over time. What matters is access to talent, and a 1960's Arky had better access than A&M but a modern A&M has better access than Arky. Yall know it too because I see yall talk down Texas talent all the time.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:47 am to 3andOut
Cool man. You lost to ULL the next year so it sounds like we'd have at least an 11 win advantage if we hadn't ran away. Lose-lose for both of us :(
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:47 am to NFLU
The two wins were very different. I think the UA win was more impressive as it was Johnny Football putting the team on his back and defeating the No. 1 team. The AU win was impressive at the time, but was not so much in retrospect as AU seemed to shite the bed at the end of the season.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:49 am to 3andOut
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LSU has a 4 game win streak on A&M currently. A&M had a 5 game win streak on LSU but yall tucked tail and quit playing us. Again, football existed before 2000.
And before that LSU won 4 of 5 and ruined at least one championship caliber season for A&M. Holla.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:49 am to Tornado Alley
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Do you have statistics related to A&M's record against "good" Arkansas teams?
I can prove a 1950/60's Arky was a top 15 if not top 10 program. Nixon for crying out loud.
I can't prove the recruiting shift though (aka what really matters) as that stuff wasn't tracked the same way back then.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:51 am to TeLeFaWx
quote:ban bet?
And I expect LSU to be a game worse
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:51 am to FishFearMe
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Maybe you ought to read up on former Texas A&M Professor Norman Borlaug and stop talking with your mouth full.
please read: i've noticed repeatedly that y'all are falsely under the impression that people actually give a shite. however, to appease you i googled him- he won the peace prize in 1970 well before his time at a&m.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:52 am to InfernoOrangeSS
True, but you know how football goes...one win or loss can be a turning point to your season. Whose to say that things wouldn't have continued to go Auburn's way without that loss, like we've seen so many times in the past?
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:52 am to craigbiggio
Arky has a medium sized lead over us in the head to head series. We have more total wins, a higher all time winning percentage, more bowl games, more bowl wins, a higher bowl winning percentage, far more conference championships, and more national championships.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:53 am to cardboardboxer
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That has nothing to do with it.
so you're saying that the last 4 years our record hasn't suffered due to petrino's and jls' idiocy?
Posted on 8/5/15 at 10:54 am to InfernoOrangeSS
I was at the Alabama game and it was a great SEC game. I Would say the same even if we had lost.
The Alabama fans were very gracious even though they were disappointed. I gained a lot of respect for them.
The Alabama fans were very gracious even though they were disappointed. I gained a lot of respect for them.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:01 am to piggilicious
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so you're saying that the last 4 years our record hasn't suffered due to petrino's and jls' idiocy?
I am saying it doesn't matter. Arky could win next year and it still doesn't matter.
What matters to this discussion is that a modern A&M is on paper a better program than a modern Arky. We have a bigger stadium, better facilities, better access to talent, and more spending money in our pockets. Does that mean for certain we will win every year or live up to that potential? No, but it does mean that an all time record built on time period when Arky was CLEARLY the better program means it is a useless metric going forward.
That is all I am saying.
This post was edited on 8/5/15 at 11:02 am
Posted on 8/5/15 at 11:04 am to piggilicious
Yep, and we recruited him because we wanted the best professors we could get to teach our farmers.
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