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re: TAMU - I heard your coach on SECN sometime recently discussing the run game...
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:48 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 7/28/15 at 9:48 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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When did he say that?
Oh, Jesus, you want me to remember every interview the guy has ever given? I know a lot about football, but that's a little much. I'll see if I can hunt it down for you, though.
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Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:00 am to therick711
he may have said that.. don't really care one way or the other.
what I'm interested in is a more balanced offense. the "bubble screen" crap was just that, crap, and shouldn't have been meant as a great run option. It's shine comes from INFREQUENT use, not every series.
Chief has gotten the splash here but I'm honestly just as excited about the other half and how the offense changes.
what I'm interested in is a more balanced offense. the "bubble screen" crap was just that, crap, and shouldn't have been meant as a great run option. It's shine comes from INFREQUENT use, not every series.
Chief has gotten the splash here but I'm honestly just as excited about the other half and how the offense changes.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:10 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
He never said that. A&M led the SEC in rushing his first year in the league.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:11 am to Jobu93
We're not going to slow down and ball control isn't the intent of the move.
We want to be able to run when we HAVE to, and when we need to finish games with leads. We're still going to throw the ball a lot, and we're going to run the hurry up a lot more than last year with Kyle in his second year and comfortable with the system.
Also, as proven many times before, Chavis doesn't require elite or even good TOP to have a good defense.
We want to be able to run when we HAVE to, and when we need to finish games with leads. We're still going to throw the ball a lot, and we're going to run the hurry up a lot more than last year with Kyle in his second year and comfortable with the system.
Also, as proven many times before, Chavis doesn't require elite or even good TOP to have a good defense.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:12 am to Hugh McElroy
Yeah that was why I asked
No coach except maybe Leach would say some shite like that
No coach except maybe Leach would say some shite like that
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 10:13 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:18 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Now, he may have said something like, "putting all 11 guys all right together and just trying to run the ball every play is becoming obsolete."
That's true, of course.
That's true, of course.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:23 am to Hugh McElroy
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Now, he may have said something like, "putting all 11 guys all right together and just trying to run the ball every play is becoming obsolete."
That's true, of course.
I disagree.
-Les Miles
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:42 am to therick711
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He's said in the past that run games were obsolete and that you could replace that production in the pass game with more success. Interesting to see him reverse course a bit (at least on paper).
Now that's just bs, post a link Rick cause you know you're making sheet up.
Sumlin has said often in many interviews when asked about pass vs run that his offensive philosophy is to score as often and as fast as possible and he'll use whatever approach gets him that result vs the team he's facing at the moment.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:43 am to therick711
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Are we conflating spread option and spread run heavy teams with Air Raid offenses again? The apt comparisons would be what June Jones did, Mike Leach, Hal Mumme, Art Briles, etc.
He chose the word spread, not me.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:47 am to Farmer1906
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He chose the word spread, not me.
I'm not sure why you would choose to look like you don't know what you're talking about if you understood the difference.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 10:58 am to Nguyening
im good wit Dat
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:00 am to Hugh McElroy
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I don't know what about the Christensen hire amuses you. He killed it as Mizzou's OC. He wasn't great as the head coach at Wyoming (27-35), but he wasn't exactly 1-31 in conference games. He killed it as the OC at Utah last year. He left the OC gig at Utah to become the OL coach and RGC at A&M. That's a great hire.
Damn. That's some quality smack right there.
It's Steele cracking me up.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:02 am to Old Sarge
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Sumlin has said often in many interviews when asked about pass vs run that his offensive philosophy is to score as often and as fast as possible and he'll use whatever approach gets him that result vs the team he's facing at the moment.
That's what he's said. Outside of 2012, A&M has finished no better than 11th in attempts in the conference (if you count only conference games, they finished 13th both years in attempts). In 2012, they finished 4th, but they were buoyed by 201 attempts from the quarterback (I could not find a breakdown of designed runs to scrambles, if anyone has an article, I would be interested in reading it). If Johnny had ran half as much or approximated his attempts from 2013, they would have finished about the same in the conference. Obviously, though he ran/scrambled for what he ran for. Without a breakdown, the attempts number is stripped of much of its meaning.
The point is that Sumlin gives lip service to the run game but it has never been a big part of what he does in the SEC. It took a historic scrambler in 2012 to get to the 500 attempt mark.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:05 am to Nguyening
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Also, as proven many times before, Chavis doesn't require elite or even good TOP to have a good defense.
Hmm, that's not exactly how that thread went. The chart produced showed that as TOP increased, Chavis' defenses performances were better. Those things moved together. You have conflated necessary and sufficient to cloud up the argument.
That being said, Chavis doesn't benefit from high TOP disproportionately, but it is stupid to say that preventing the other team from being on offense doesn't help the defense.
This post was edited on 7/28/15 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:21 am to GFunk
It's going to be some two back stuff. Sumlin has run a one back clinic for forever.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:39 am to boogiewoogie1978
Agreed. Even when a guy was running well, he would get yanked. Hopefully we let guys stay in the game longer.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 12:20 pm to therick711
You're wrong. Malena had 800+ yards in 2012.
Malena also had 150 rushing in the OM game which helped us win.
Malena also had 150 rushing in the OM game which helped us win.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 12:27 pm to therick711
No one has ever said that TOP doesn't matter to defensive statistics. The referenced thread was only meant to show that Chavis DOES have good defenses, even when he isn't helped by a good TOP. He's fielded top 10 defenses even when his team's TOP has been ranked nowhere near the top 10.
And that's not even getting into the chicken-and-egg question of whether the good TOP numbers have more to do with Chavis's defenses getting themselves off the field than his teams' offenses keeping them on the sidelines.
But back to the original topic, the hiring of Christensen is all the evidence you need of Sumlin's desire to run more effectively. Whether he wants to run more in terms of attempts remains to be seen, but at a minimum he knows that he needs to be able to run effectively when he wants to.
And that's not even getting into the chicken-and-egg question of whether the good TOP numbers have more to do with Chavis's defenses getting themselves off the field than his teams' offenses keeping them on the sidelines.
But back to the original topic, the hiring of Christensen is all the evidence you need of Sumlin's desire to run more effectively. Whether he wants to run more in terms of attempts remains to be seen, but at a minimum he knows that he needs to be able to run effectively when he wants to.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 12:58 pm to Jobu93
The bubble screen is fine but not every other play. Especially when going against a D that is light in the pants.
Posted on 7/28/15 at 12:58 pm to Jobu93
The bubble screen is fine but not every other play. Especially when going against a D that is light in the pants.
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