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re: Taking a look at the Mizzy CBs

Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:09 pm to
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Finally...someone gets it!

Posted by DocBugbear
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:09 pm to
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We are getting into real chicken or egg territory here.


No. No we aren't. I'm not arguing about the quality of the B-12 corners. I just saying your argument is ridiculous. Having pass happy offenses in a conference does not necessarily lead to better cornerbacks than one that throws sparingly. I just don't think this argument holds any water whatsoever. As I said, I think a better measuring stick would be the number of corners drafted recently.
Posted by Palooza11
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:15 pm to
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Even if I were to accept that bullshite premise on its face, which I don't, that's kinda like buying a Ferrari and keeping it in the garage for its entire existence and never using the damn thing. And no, that is not just cuz of the vaunted SEC defenses, its because of the playcalling in your league. Corners in the SEC DO NOT have as many balls thrown there way per game or over the course of the season as Big 12 corners do, that is stone cold fact. All this shite about how the SEC will "wear us down" and so forth actually doesn't apply to that position - if anything, Mizzou and ATM's corners will be much more well rested in your league. Simple truth.


I agree with this way of thought.

On a side note, the Spread and Air Raid will work in the SEC. Mizzou and A&M will be able to move the ball around. SEC corners are typically used to covering 2-3 receivers in each play not 5. Yes, the corners are good but I assume there has to be a drop off after the starting 2 corners. Mismatches will be created. However, for some strange reason head coaches in the SEC believe that they need to be running a pro style offense, with multiple tight ends and power running games. I find this hilarious because if you have that game plan, aren't you playing to the overall strength of the league? The front 7??
This post was edited on 8/5/12 at 9:17 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:21 pm to
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I agree with this way of thought.



An A&M fan sticking up for the most overrated conference in the country. Shocker.

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On a side note, the Spread and Air Raid will work in the SEC


The "Air Raid" alone is NEVER enough to bring home the hardware. You girls will figure it out soon enough.

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SEC corners are typically used to covering 2-3 receivers in each play not 5. Yes, the corners are good but I assume there has to be a drop off after the starting 2 corners.




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However, for some strange reason head coaches in the SEC believe that they need to be running a pro style offense, with multiple tight ends and power running games. I find this hilarious because if you have that game plan, aren't you playing to the overall strength of the league? The front 7??



Coaches in the SEC know that if you want to win, you have to make the defense respect the running game. Without that, your QB will leave on a stretcher (Ask Colt McCoy about that).
Posted by DocBugbear
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:29 pm to
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On a side note, the Spread and Air Raid will work in the SEC. Mizzou and A&M will be able to move the ball around. SEC corners are typically used to covering 2-3 receivers in each play not 5. Yes, the corners are good but I assume there has to be a drop off after the starting 2 corners. Mismatches will be created. However, for some strange reason head coaches in the SEC believe that they need to be running a pro style offense, with multiple tight ends and power running games. I find this hilarious because if you have that game plan, aren't you playing to the overall strength of the league? The front 7??


Top teams in the SEC use power running games because it provides less uncertainty in the outcome. If you are better than your opponent, you have a good chance of winning passing or running, but you are less likely to lose with a power running game. Passing is more turnover prone, not just from interceptions but from having the ball stripped from smaller, less physical WRs. In addition it is too reliant on one player, the QB. When he has a bad day everything grinds to a halt. We are playing for NCs and can't afford a loss or two. So we run it.

I think that the air raids will produce a lot of offense in the SEC, but not as many wins as you'd like.

EDT: sorry the end got cut off...
This post was edited on 8/5/12 at 9:32 pm
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:25 pm to
I hate to burst your bubbles, but our entire second string secondary would start for you.

Our starters would blow you away.

There is a huge talent gap between you and the top of the conference. However, I wouldn't take shite from the guys in the east either.
Posted by Cards314
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:32 pm to
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I hate to burst your bubbles, but our entire second string secondary would start for you.


just dumb ignorant gay post
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:35 pm to
You must not see tbe LSU on my team logo? We'll be putting the top db into this draft again.

Eugene, martin, Collins are all better than anyone in your starting secondary.

Mathieu, loston, Simon, and Reid are all on a different planet from your squad.
Posted by Gladius Veritas
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:38 pm to
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just dumb ignorant gay post




Except it's true
Posted by DocHog
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:38 pm to
I think our Aggie and Mizzou friends' teams will have some real success. The LSUs and Bamas will crush your offenses. Absolutely maul you. Georgia, Florida, and USCe will control you well enough to beat you. Arkansas and MissSt will probably do the same.

You'll score alot of points on the other guys though.

I've seen what LSU and bama did to the Hogs last year, and I don't think ANYONE on either of your staffs is Bobby Petrino's equal in finding and exploiting mismatches. Yet those two teams throttled us.

Wait and see
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:39 pm to
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Arky material


frick you.

Arkansas' starting CB's are a 5 star and high 4 star that was ALL SEC Frosh last year dickwad.

Darius Winston

Tevin Mitchel
This post was edited on 8/5/12 at 10:42 pm
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:43 pm to
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I hate to burst your bubbles, but our entire second string secondary would start for you.
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just dumb ignorant gay post


...He might be right. Our back-ups are solid.



Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:44 pm to
If you try to out gain everyone in the league, you're shooting yourselves in the foot with the spread IMO. See wvu vs LSU 2011.

We give up 450 yards in the air, control the clock, and win by 25 points.

Meyer had to adjust his offense. So will pinkel.
Posted by Palooza11
Houston
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:45 pm to
A&M is not going to stop running the ball. Our coaches aren't dumb. The strength of our offense is the line and the running backs. I think the spread/air raid will create mismatches, as long as the QB is calm in the pocket and is accurate.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60152 posts
Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:47 pm to
The speed of our RBs combined with the system will be our biggest strength going forward IMO. Brandon and Trey Williams can both absolutely fly and this system will get them in space often
This post was edited on 8/5/12 at 10:48 pm
Posted by Cards314
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:47 pm to
so your back up cb's would start over an all big 12 safety? no
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:49 pm to
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I know exactly what you're doing. Attack? Yes. Master trolling? Absolutely.


Gotta give it to him he's picking Missouri apart position by position.
Posted by Palooza11
Houston
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:49 pm to
Turnovers. Like an above poster said, putting your eggs in one basket, the QB in these types of offense. That will not be the case for A&M. We will be running the ball quite a bit this year, just like we have before.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 10:52 pm to
Lol you haven't seen our guys much, so it's kind of cute that you are trying to compare your guys to DBU.
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