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re: Taking a look at the Mizzy CBs

Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:38 pm to
Cocoa Crispies brah. That's were it's at. Good sugar high and chocolate milk at the end.

I'm starting to think we can't be e-friends. I mean you guys blast me for not knowing anything about your team and then when I attempt to correct that you blast me for learning about your team.

This post was edited on 8/5/12 at 8:40 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:39 pm to
His whole "serious" schtick is laughable.
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:40 pm to
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Now some do know them and I certainly learned something.

Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:41 pm to
It's all good. I'm going to shake the haters and keep on learnin'.

It's actually quite enjoyable.

I may try to do the same with the Aggies next week.
Posted by Sarcastro
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:48 pm to
EJ Gaines is pretty damn sweet. Mizzou was his only offer when he committed. According to reports, he tried to commit to Mizzou for a week before our coaches would accept his commitment. His first year starting was last year. It was also his sophomore season, and he was first team all Big 12. He had something like 20 PD. He's a good tackler too and had 70 or so tackles last season.
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:48 pm to
You also need to learn the "Randy Ponderous Anthem"...

"I love it when they call me BIG POSSUM
Put your hands in the AIR if you's a true PLAYER
I love it when they call me BIG POSSUM
To the Auburn QBs gettin money playin' boosters like dummies
I love it when they call me BIG POSSUM
Cause I see some shitty SEC East offenses that should be sending pick sixes my way, babay"
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:49 pm to
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Actually you are dead wrong, that is the ONE area where SEC shite talk is completely unfounded and whats up is down as far as league comparisons go. Yes you guys play defense well, but your offenses are NOT as wide open and pass oriented as the Big 12. Our corners guard guys like Justin Blackmon and Ryan Broyles and Jeff Fuller and so on every game - and if you don't believe in them, well the NFL does so you are flat wrong. If there is ONE area where SEC fans DO NOT have any logical reason to be smug jerkfaces, it is toward the Big 12's top wide receivers and the amount of work that corners in that league have to put in guarding those pass happy offenses the league has had for years now.
actually the SEC has better WRs than the big 12.
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:50 pm to
Not true.
This post was edited on 8/5/12 at 8:52 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:53 pm to
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Not buying that.


As of 2011 the SEC had put 12 more WRs into the NFL than the big 12.
Posted by DocBugbear
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:54 pm to
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Actually you are dead wrong, that is the ONE area where SEC shite talk is completely unfounded and whats up is down as far as league comparisons go. Yes you guys play defense well, but your offenses are NOT as wide open and pass oriented as the Big 12. Our corners guard guys like Justin Blackmon and Ryan Broyles and Jeff Fuller and so on every game - and if you don't believe in them, well the NFL does so you are flat wrong. If there is ONE area where SEC fans DO NOT have any logical reason to be smug jerkfaces, it is toward the Big 12's top wide receivers and the amount of work that corners in that league have to put in guarding those pass happy offenses the league has had for years now. Sorry. You don't get this one. Go talk about your gigantic-but-fast defensive tackles in the SEC some more and we will go back to quaking in our boots.


I'm sorry, but this argument makes no sense. Just because you have some good receivers to cover doesn't automatically makes your corners good. In fact, one could argue that the pass happy offenses of the B-12 wouldn't be as successful as they are if the CBs were better.

I'm not saying there aren't good corners in the B-12, just that this argument is fallacious. I would think a better test would be how many corners have been drafted in recent years, but I have no idea what has come out of the B-12.
Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:54 pm to
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actually the SEC has better WRs than the big 12.


Even if I were to accept that bullshite premise on its face, which I don't, that's kinda like buying a Ferrari and keeping it in the garage for its entire existence and never using the damn thing. And no, that is not just cuz of the vaunted SEC defenses, its because of the playcalling in your league. Corners in the SEC DO NOT have as many balls thrown there way per game or over the course of the season as Big 12 corners do, that is stone cold fact. All this shite about how the SEC will "wear us down" and so forth actually doesn't apply to that position - if anything, Mizzou and ATM's corners will be much more well rested in your league. Simple truth.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:55 pm to
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Taking a look at the Mizzy CBs



Aren't they just furniture for the field?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 8:57 pm to
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As of 2011 the SEC had put 12 more WRs into the NFL than the big 12.


Over what time period?

Over the last 5 drafts the Big 12 has had 5 taken in the first round to the SEC's 3 I believe. I think the talent level at WR is pretty close though between the two conferences.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:00 pm to
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Corners in the SEC DO NOT have as many balls thrown there way per game or over the course of the season as Big 12 corners do, that is stone cold fact. All this shite about how the SEC will "wear us down" and so forth actually doesn't apply to that position - if anything, Mizzou and ATM's corners will be much more well rested in your league. Simple truth.



Speaking of "simple truth":





Your defense better take notes. Mizzou or any Big 12 team can't stop a nose bleed. Ya'll are weak.



Posted by Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:01 pm to
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In fact, one could argue that the pass happy offenses of the B-12 wouldn't be as successful as they are if the CBs were better.


We are getting into real chicken or egg territory here. I am going to tell you flat out, that the Big 12 pass happy offenses are what came first. It was never a case of Big 12 offensive coordinators going "oh hey guys, I just now realized after all these years that the corners in our league actually suck balls, so lets go to this new thing called a spread offense and chuck the ball a gazillion trillion times a game!"

The Big 12 used to be so ground oriented it wasn't funny. At its inception in the early 90s, you had the Tom Osborne smash mouth Nebraska Cornhuskers winning the national title in '94 and '95 and then again in '97 as a Big 12 team (and if nothing else I know you guys respect NCs). Hell, Mizzou was playing rugged, option football with Corby Jones at QB for our 97 and 98 teams. Offenses then were very SEC-like in our league.

Bob Stoops at OU started the spread usage and then when Mike Leech took over at Texas Tech and installed the Air Raid, things changed. Leech had found an equalizer, something to level the playing field for less physically gifted rosters to deal with the Nebraska type big baddies. It was working, so other teams in our league followed Tech's lead - most notably Mizzou. Pinkel had us running a button down, smash mouth type of offense right up until 2005 when he finally switched to an air it out spread. Now unless the corners in the Big 12 suddenly got much, much shittier some time between 2004 and 2005, then I'd say it was the pass happy offenses in our league that resulted in the big offensive numbers being put up - not poor play by the secondaries. Again, sorry, but I'm not letting you have this one. You can have pretty much everything else, but not this.
Posted by URHatinIt
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:03 pm to
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This is like getting straight A's in community college. Looks nice and pretty but when you step up to the big leagues it doesn't mean shite.


1st team in a pass happy,fast paced offensive conference.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:05 pm to
Wait, Mizzouri has Corners, everybody fricked now
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:06 pm to
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1st team in a pass happy,fast paced offensive conference.


The best offensive coordinators just attack the weak spots in a defense.
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 8/5/12 at 9:06 pm to
Finally...someone gets it!
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